Was S4 owners help, now S4 vs Chipped 1990 200 tqa

[Jason]

I had an 87 5ktq which was chipped/schrapnel knobben,
no bypass valve (yes I know, stoopid), and I have
driven a stock 93 S4 a couple of times.  Seat of the
pants, my 5K feels like it would kill the S4.  But,
IMO, it's really turbo lag that I am feeling that
makes me think that the 5k would demolish the S4.  You
don't know that you are flying in the S4 till you look
at the speedo, wheras the 5K you KNOW it is building
boost.  Instead of my ass being the gauge, I really
should have watched the speedo, but the S4 is sold and
the 5K is in parts now.  Just my .02

Jason



--- "Lewis, Gary M" <gary.m.lewis2 at boeing.com> wrote:
> I have a 1990 200 tqa, runs 1.8-1.9 bar (chip was
> designed by some factory
> guys in the early 1990's, don't have details), 1991
> Intercooler (I did a
> full factory mod, very nice), and a bypass valve
> (which I don't like with
> the K24.  Too much pressure drop between shifts).
> My wagon is quite a bit
> faster from 0-60ish (wasn't watching the speedo, but
> street speeds), esp off
> the line than a stock S4.  It is also faster than a
> stock 1991 200 tqa.   I
> think it is the weight difference in both cases.
> I'd guess the S4's
> overboost condition allows it to start pulling more
> or less even with the
> chipped 1990 tqa from 3rd gear to 4th.
>
> Another data point is Scott Mockry's site, he's got
> his car (similar to
> mine), the 1991 200 tq, and the S4 performance data
> comparo's...
>
> Gary Lewis
> 1990 200TQW, 1991 TQ Intercooler, 1.8 bar, Bypass
> Valve, Bilsteins, Euro's,
> awaiting the RS2 turbo transplant...
>
>
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:05:59 -0500 (CDT)
> > From: Robert Deis <rdeis at io.com>
> > To: quattro at audifans.com
> > Subject: Re: S4 owners help
> >
> > On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Huw Powell wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > >   I said that my car a 90 200tqa with IA
> stageII chip
> > > > and 2.0 bar is getting around 225HP and the S4
> has
> > > > 227HP stock I'm just a little shocked that my
> car
> > > > feels faster than the S4.
> >
> > Torque curve?  Don't know the torque curve on the
> 200, but
> > I've heard that
> > its dead-flat on the TT and S4.  A flat torque
> curve is
> > easier to control,
> > and often *is* faster, but a peaky torque curve
> always *feels* faster.
> >
> > --
> >
>
--------------------------------------------------------------
> > ----------------
> >   Rob Deis                  "Let the people know
> beforehand
> > what the law
> >   MiB3347                      is and what they
> are to expect."
> >   rdeis at io.com                              --
> 18th Congress, Rec. 75
> >
> >
> > --__--__-->
>
>
> > Message: 6
> > Subject: Subject: Re: S4 owners help
> > To: quattro at audifans.com
> > Cc: ron_01056 at yahoo.com
> > From: "Darrell Adams" <adamsdr at us.ibm.com>
> > Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:06:01 -0600
> >
> >
> > Ron,
> > I also get the digest, you get all the messages,
> just a little slower.
> > I also post to several mailing lists, often
> getting NO reply
> > to a question
> > I really want input on.  You just have to ask
> something that sparks
> > interest in someone else that they feel they have
> something
> > to add.  I get
> > pretty frustrated not asking the right things, so
> I usually just lurk.
> >
> > I don't know your car, nor the S4, but in my
> experience with
> > chipped cars,
> > the chip pushes the car for as much power as much
> as possible, while a
> > stock car is designed to be smooth, and appeal to
> a wide
> > variety of people.
> > All the chipped cars I've owned and driven, feel
> like they
> > have a 'punch'
> > that stock cars don't. The exception may be some
> 16V vw's.
> > (oh no! I said
> > VW!)
> >
> > also, even if they're not EXACTLY the same car,
> they're
> > closer than if it
> > was comparing to a coup or a engine transplant
> car. sheesh.
> >
> >
> > D (maybe I just get too wordy in posts) Adams
> >
> > '89 90Q
> > '90 G60 (oh no! I have a vw! I'm going to get
> kicked off the quattro
> > list....)
> > '99 A4TQ
> >
> > "Linux will set you free" - me
> >
> >   Eric, listers
> >
> >   Looks like Eric is the only one with some advice
> for
> > me,
> >  While I thank him I all ready looked at SJM's
> site it
> > is very informative but I own a 90 200tqa not 91
> and I
> > have a wagon not a sedan so the comparisons
> weren't of
> > any use to me I still found it interesting,
> >   I said that my car a 90 200tqa with IA stageII
> chip
> > and 2.0 bar is getting around 225HP and the S4 has
> > 227HP stock I'm just a little shocked that my car
> > feels faster than the S4.
> >  Maybe I should post something on the S4 site
> since
> > I've only gotten 1 response I was hoping for a lot
> > more cause I'd like some info on this model and
> the
> > options
> >  I'm not sure this matters but I'm on the digest
> not
> > the main list
> >  do I get all the mails that everyone else gets?
> > Thanks
> > Ron
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >


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