FW: Audi Caravan

[Livolsi, Stephane]

Very interesting points of view.

Consider:

Stephane is cruising down the highway in the left lane doing 90 MPH.  Javad
comes screaming up behind him at the speed of sound and wants to get by.
Neither of them can read minds.
1.  Stephane may assume that Javad will pass on the right, so he stays put.
Javad may assume that Stephane will stay in the left lane so he passes on
the right.
2.  Stephane may pull over to the right as soon as he sees Javad coming up
behind him.  Javad passes on the left with an appreciative wave.
3.  Stephane may assume that Javad wants to pass on the left so moves right,
at the same time as Javad thinks "this guy is a dick for staying left" and
moves right also.  Basic physics tells us that 2 Audis cannot occupy the
space of one Audi.   If not for Javad's excellent brakes........
4.  Stephane is a real jerk and there is no way that he is going to give up
his left lane - besides Javad shouldn't be going faster than 90, it's not
safe!  Javad is...strong willed...and knows that Stephane should pull over
to the right to let him pass.  Gotta teach him a lesson and starts
tailgating, flashing lights and honking horn.  Just then they come around a
corner bumper to bumper doing 90MPH where Mike's car is stationary in the
left lane because it just inexplicably stopped running.....  Could you
imagine the news coverage if 3 Audis, and only 3 Audis got totaled in the
same accident?  But, I digress....

Too many possibilities.  It may make sense to you to pass him on the right,
but what if he doesn't share your good sense?  The potential consequences
are not acceptable.

On the other hand

1.  Stephane and Javad both know that the rules of the road say keep right
except to pass, so Stephane moves right and Javad moves left.
No guessing, no assuming, no mind reading, no questions, and Javad doesn't
need new brake rotors and underwear, and when they get to Mike they both
stop and help pull codes (after pushing his car off the road of course).

It's the same thing with right of ways.  I HATE it when someone yields their
right of way to me.  I'm waiting for my turn.  I know what to expect, and
what comes next, and when my turn will be.  Then, the guy with the right of
way stops and starts waving.  All of a sudden all the rules are out the
window and no one knows who will go next, or what will come next. Who's turn
is it now?  Why did he stop?  Is that God in that car?  Gee I wish I had the
power to change the rules of the road with a wave of my hand....

Apologies to those who pay for bandwidth.
Peace folks

Stephane

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> From: 	JShadzi at aol.com[SMTP:JShadzi at aol.com]
> Sent: 	July 15, 2002 3:02 PM
> To: 	AudiV8 at 1stchoicegranite.com; mswanson at sonitrol.net;
> v8q at bellsouth.net
> Cc: 	poster at bitstream.net; quattro at audifans.com
> Subject: 	Re: Audi Caravan
>
> Michael, I'm very serious.  I don't see how your ambulance example has to
> do anything with this discussion, so I'll just dismiss it for clarity's
> sake.
>
> 1) Stay out of the fast lane unless you are passing cars that are slower
> than you are.
>
> 2) If for some reason you are in the fast lane, and a car is fast
> approaching you (say 20+mph), MY preference would be that you stay and I
> go around you (this is so I don't rear end you).
>
> When someone is going over 20-30mph over the speed limit, they need to
> take responsibility for their actions and movements.
>
> WE DON'T HAVE AN AUTOBAHN in the US, I wish to God everyday we did, but we
> don't.
>
> When I am traveling at speeds significantly above the speed limit, I take
> responsibility for my driving, and don't expect others to compensate for
> my admitedly extreme actions.
>
> The same rules apply on the track, because its safer.
>
> FACT:  People lull in the fast lane, I wish they didn't, I wish the fast
> lane was clear as far as the eye can see, but its not, so my driving style
> has adapted accordingly.
>
> Its just reality, that's all, better take notice.
>
> Javad
>
>
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <JShadzi at aol.com>
> ><snippage>
> >> if I'm going 110 and coming up on a car going 75,
> >> I don't expect them to move over, I go around them,
> >> if they can even see me.  If the Audi that flashed you was
> >> at fault, it was for expecting you to move over in the heat
> >> of the moment, he should have just gone around you.
> >> Race track rules should have applied there.
> >
> >> Bottom line:  Don't cruise in the fast lane, and if someone is gaining
> on
> >you rapidly, stay put.
> >
> >Javad, please! you can't be serious!
> >I know you only from your posts here on the lists, and you strike me as a
> >fairly intelligent guy, with a sharp wit and sense of sarcastic humor, so
> I
> >am sure that you MUST be pulling the guy's leg here!!!
> >
> >I ALWAYS expect people to pull over when flashed at, but am NEVER
> surprised
> >when they do not. I mean, heck, it's not 3 months since I saw an
> >intersection full of cars at the light, in all directions (the
> intersection
> >itself was clear), everyone waiting for the emergency vehicle to pass,
> whose
> >siren everyone heard.
> >
> >The ambulance was travelling West toward the intersection, and both
> >westbound lanes were full of waiting cars - only one of which was in the
> >left (fast) lane. The driver made the sad mistake of assuming that the
> >driver of the waiting car - having had the sense to stay put on green due
> to
> >the audible warning - also would observe optically that the vehicle was
> >moving up behind him, and therefore move out of the way, and create a
> >passage for the ambulance.
> >
> >The ambulance had to come to a complete stop, sit behind the guy with
> >lights, sirens, horns and everything else for about 10 seconds, before
> the
> >guy woke up and got out of the way.
> >
> >AAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGHHH!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> >Michael L. Riebs
> >Grand Rapids, Michigan
> >
> >'90 V8Q
> >'98 A6QA
> >
> >www.1stchoicegranite.com
> >
> >
> >
>