stereo woes

scott thomas scott at dreamtheater.zzn.com
Tue Jun 25 21:14:21 EDT 2002


As far as decks go, Eclipse is very nice, but
will cost you and be somewhat short on features,
but the line outputs are high voltage in most
models. They make equipment that sounds good.
Alpine is what I use, with excellent results. I
have Rockfords, pulled from my 5ktq (5 1/4")
stuffed into the 4" front Bose modules and
Pioneer Premier 6x9's in the rear. Using the
head unit's amp.

Stay away from Sony. Goofy and unreliable.
Pioneer is ok, Premier better. Blaupunkt is ok
and simple.

Good luck!
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From: "j fizz" <iin10ded at hotmail.com>
Sent: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 22:52:25 +0000
To: bkaupp at ugconnection.com
CC: quattro at audifans.com
Subject: re: stereo woes


ben,
hey there.. bored at work and saw the post,
so....

<<So the questions: 1. Is it possible to put
5.25" mids anywhere in the
front?>>

yes, do some sort of a door or kickpanel
buildout to mount a set of 5"
separates to. i like the doors bc they tend to
take less of a beating.
closer to the footwell = better [you want to try
to equalise the pathlegnth
 from the l+r speakers to your head - ideally]
this can be as simple a a
thick- at ss piece of wood covered to look nice, to
give you the mounting depth
needed for the magnet to clear the door's guts.
if the door is relatively
flat and fetaure-free, this works like a champ.
in contoured doors [my
memory of the 4000 door is fuzzy], things get a
bit trickier. the same rule
still applies, but you may have to get more
creative in the use of
marterials. its best to try to seal the airspace
of the driver, but its not
always possible, and usually very difficult, and
most of us have other
hobbies.

if you cant work out the door speaker, get a
nice 4" separate set for the
dash and keep reading...

<<2. What about 6x9" in the rear shelf? 3. How
do you get those front
speaker grills off? 4. >>

i dont know how to get the grills off.. pull em.

6X9's suck, plain and simple. this is of course
my opiniion. its just a big
goofy thing stuffed in the rear deck of every
lowered '78 cutlass on earth
[even sweeter if you stuff 2 pair back
there! ;]. better to use a high
quality coax [boston acoustics, ads, etc..] and
spare the stock look [im
assuming its a 5 inch round or so..]
the biggest improvement will come from
aftermarklet amps with electronic
crosssovers and a dedicated sub in the trunk.
running the front and rear
speakers through an electronic  highpass filter
makes a HUGE difference in
the sound quality, lifespan and mamimum output
of the in-car drivers [when
they dont try to play bass, which theyre not
very good at, theyre a lot
happier]. it doesnt have to be much.. 30 or 40
decent watts per channel will
ROCK over any headunit on earth [anyone who
tells you different needs a
drain-o flavored qtip]. throw a couple hundred
watts to a single 12 in a
small sealed box and youll be in car stereo
heaven. if you want to play it
really loud, dont. cuz you dont wanna be "that
guy".

if you have 6x9 openings, then cut a baffle in
the 6x9 shape and mount good
separates to it and screw the whole thing into
place. all the car audio
nerds will think you're "high end".

<<Has anybody had any experience with Nakamichi
decks, or have any other
recommendations for a deck that doesn't just
scream Honda (read AMBER
ILLUMIATION)>>

not so hot on features, and usually low output
voltage, but some of the best
sounding decks ive heard.  the 6 disc single din
in dash changer ROCKS. you
would have to have a pretty nice rig to justify
the sonic differences of a
nak.

have fun..
jim



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