MC1 - while I'm at it..

[Tom]

Hi Ben,

I would specifically recommend against using the Total Seal rings. I have
heard several horror stories about them and no positive anecdotes. Most
common complaint seems to be that they never seal - most recent incident
resulted in 1 qt / 700 mi oil consumption in a motor that was supposedly
prepped to be TS friendly. The other problem is that the rings are 1/2
thickness at the overlapping point and more likely to fail there. A fair
amount of total blow-by on a healthy motor is due to the ring shifting
position (bottom to top of land) and even gapless rings can't address this.

Best suggestion is to leave well enough alone and let the thing die of
natural causes 100k mi or so from now :-)

-tom

> Message: 4
> From: Ben Swann <bswann at worldnet.att.net>
> Reply-To: "bswann at worldnet.att.net" <bswann at worldnet.att.net>
> To: 'j rice' <ricematthews3 at hotmail.com>,
> "brett at cloud9.net" <brett at cloud9.net>,
> "quattrorunner at lvcm.com" <quattrorunner at lvcm.com>
> Cc: "quattro at audifans.com" <quattro at audifans.com>
> Subject: RE: MC1 - while I'm at it..
> Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 14:19:19 -0500
> Organization: Swann Family
>
> On Friday, March 01, 2002 1:48 PM, j rice [SMTP:ricematthews3 at hotmail.com]
wrote:
> > (Offlist since the list doesn't recognize my Hotmail account)
> >
> > I do understand that Total Seal makes a quality product wrt minimizing
> > blowby, but ask around and let them know that it is for a DIY job.
Deves
> > was the name that had been recommended to me when I did the motor in my
2002
> > as I was told that they seat easily which can be an issue if your cross
> > hatching isn't machine shop perfect.
> >
> > BTW - did the originator of this thread say that there was still plenty
of
> > visible crosshatching on the cylinder walls?
>
> Yes - that's me..Ben
>
> > If so and if there's no ridge
> Yes - correct ..Ben
> > or oil burning under hard acceleration, new rings may not be worthwhile
as
> > they may not seat as well as the originals.
> Right, any oil usage I attribute to loss through turbo..Ben
> >
> > Just my thoughts.....
> > Mark Rice
>
> > >     When it comes down to it, I just say what I'm told, but it does
> > >make sence to me.
> >
> > I agree; you've got the access now, so why not?
> >
> > Further, I'd suggest looking at Total Seal rings; basically near zero
> > blowby...which translates to less shmutz coming out through the
> > crankcase ventilation system...which means less oil gumming up
> > everything from the IC onwards, less oil on the throttle assembly and
> > ISV, fewer deposits on valves, combustion chamber/piston heads, O2
> > sensor, catalytic converter...
> >
> > Brett



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