quattro digest, Vol 1 #3083 - 200 questions

[Larry C Leung]

Re: IA chip for a 5KQ

If your potential 200 has a Mac12 (MC1, single knock sensor), then the
chip might work, if it's MAC14 (MC2 dual knock sensor), then you'll have
to go with SJM's or other chips (preferably not TAP)

Re: 17 x 7.5 on a 200Q 10V - not a likely fit without flaring the rears.
Not too sure of clearing the steering knuckle up front either, thought
the 30mm offset will probably help. Probably won't be able to go any
wider than a 215 section tire.


LL - NY - '89 200Q with "stuff"

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>   1. Re:Audi LS 100...low mileage (Michael Riebs)
>   2. Re:Audi LS 100...low mileage (JordanVw at aol.com)
>   3. Power steering pump yarn. (long-ish) (rob hod)
>   4. Re:where to get k-jetronic mixture adjustment tool in UK? (rob
>hod)
>   5. Anyone good at Statistical Analysis? (Alexander van Gerbig)
>   6. survey: IA 20vt chip generating code 1111 (Brett Dikeman)
>   7. Sometimes I wonder... (Jim Haseltine)
>   8. Re:Parts prices? (Dave Hord)
>   9. Used car BEWARE!! (Dave Hord)
>  10. '89 200 TQ ? (Sonar465 at aol.com)
>  11. Help make E-codes the standard in North America (Per Lindgren)
>  12. 4Ktq MAC-11 wiring changes (Tim Penasack)
>  13. Re:Audi / VW catalog (Brett Dikeman)
>  14. suggestion for broken bleed screw (Mark Switek)
>  15. RE:speaking of tools... (Mike Posner)
>  16. 200 wheel upgrade (P. Stegawski)
>  17. Re:quattro digest, Vol 1 #3082 - 8 msgs (Larry C Leung)
>  18. Bad Dog Motorsports (Alexander van Gerbig)
>
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>Message: 1
>Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 11:59:19 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
>From: "Michael Riebs" <AudiV8 at 1stchoicegranite.com>
>To: <knotnook at traverse.com>, <quattro at audifans.com>,
>	<smitty at pcrealm.net>
>Subject: Re: Audi LS 100...low mileage
>Reply-To: "Michael Riebs" <AudiV8 at 1stchoicegranite.com>
>
>--
>--
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>And he somehow manages not to mention the off-colored rear
>passenger-side
>door, or the dents in the front fender, etc. Hmmm   What=B4s he up
>to?
>
>Michael
>
>-------Original Message-------
>
>From: Kneale Brownson
>Date: Sunday, March 10, 2002 06:58:14 AM
>To: smitty at pcrealm.net; Audifans
>Subject: Re: Audi LS 100...low mileage
>
>--
>Probably his version of a tire brush "mit container to keep the dirt
>out of
>the trunk"
>
>At 01:11 AM 03/10/2002 -0500, Frederick Smith wrote:
>
>>and comes with a toilet brush and holder???? (in the trunk)
>>
>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/ebayISAPI
>dll?ViewItem&item=3D1811472782&r=3D0&t=3D0
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>
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>Message: 2
>From: JordanVw at aol.com
>Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 12:31:18 EST
>Subject: Re: Audi LS 100...low mileage
>To: AudiV8 at 1stchoicegranite.com, knotnook at traverse.com,
>	quattro at audifans.com, smitty at pcrealm.net
>
>--
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>
>why you guys knocking this?  the car is pretty rare, and appears
>solid..
>most 100LS's are long gone, its rare this one survived..    not often
>a
>antique audi shows up..
>
>chris
>ex-'76 100 LS
>'86 5kT
>
>In a message dated 3/10/02 12:04:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>AudiV8 at 1stchoicegranite.com writes:
>
>
>> And he somehow manages not to mention the off-colored rear
>passenger-side
>> door, or the dents in the front fender, etc. Hmmm   What=B4s he up
>to?
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> -------Original Message-------
>>
>> From: Kneale Brownson
>> Date: Sunday, March 10, 2002 06:58:14 AM
>> To: smitty at pcrealm.net; Audifans
>> Subject: Re: Audi LS 100...low mileage
>>
>> --
>> Probably his version of a tire brush "mit container to keep the dirt
>out =
>of
>> the trunk"
>>
>> At 01:11 AM 03/10/2002 -0500, Frederick Smith wrote:
>>
>> >and comes with a toilet brush and holder???? (in the trunk)
>> >
>> >http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/ebayISAPI
>> dll?ViewItem&item=3D1811472782&r=3D0&t=3D0
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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>Message: 3
>From: "rob hod" <rob3 at hod3.fsnet.co.uk>
>To: <quattro at audifans.com>
>Subject: Power steering pump yarn. (long-ish)
>Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 18:49:51 -0000
>
>    Those listers with nothing better to ponder may have noticed me
>asking a
>few questions about PS pumps for the type $$
>    over the last month or two. It started weeping around the caps a
>while
>back and steadily got worse. Originally I thought about just doing
>the
>seals, but as there was a fair amount of bearing noise as well I
>decided to
>'do the right thing' and go for a recon unit.
>
>So a couple of weeks back I splashed on a recon unit and a bomb too.
>All
>fitted up well but ..... the 'new' pump had had little dust caps
>fitted over
>the banjo bolt holes and then been sprayed black. So I had to
>carefully
>clean all the overspray from the mating faces before fitting up the
>hoses.
>It also had a 'Warrantee Void if removed' sticker on it which was
>already
>peeling and looked like it would go about a week before it fell off of
>its
>own accord. Worse was to follow. On starting up I noticed the new pump
>was
>no quieter than the old one and had a tiny weep from exactly the same
>cap!
>grrrrrrr.
>
>I phoned the supplier next day and they agreed to replace the unit
>with a
>proper new ZF unit. I collected it a few days later and fitted it.
>First
>good sign was that it had decent size dust caps, so that although
>also
>sprayed black I didn't have to clean the mating surfaces. So far this
>one
>seems good. Its quiet and doesn't leak. Its been on a week.
>
>The supplier were good about getting me another unit, didn't charge me
>the
>difference  for a new unit and threw in a couple of things for my
>trouble,
>so I'm not too unhappy, but I really have doubts about whoever they
>use for
>those recon units.
>
>    Anyway thats been my experience with PS pumps, seems like there's
>no
>shortcuts with 'em. Thanks to all those who responded to my various
>questions over the last while.
>
>
>rob
>
>
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>Message: 4
>From: "rob hod" <rob3 at hod3.fsnet.co.uk>
>To: <quattro at audifans.com>,
>	"Phil Payne" <quattro at isham-research.com>,
>	"ed armstrong" <edshred2000 at yahoo.com>,
>	"Iain Atkinson" <iain.atkinson at tesco.net>,
><Tspitfire at aol.com>
>Subject: Re: where to get k-jetronic mixture adjustment tool in UK?
>Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 18:50:27 -0000
>
>    Thanks all for the tips. Turned out an old mixture tool that I
>originally got for a Triumph 2000 did the trick, - the heart of it is,
>guess
>what,  a 3mm allen key 6 inches long.
>
>    Cheers
>rob
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Phil Payne <quattro at isham-research.com>
>To: rob hod <rob3 at hod3.fsnet.co.uk>
>Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 9:00 AM
>Subject: Re: where to get k-jetronic mixture adjustment tool in UK?
>
>
>> >     Subject line says it all. Uk listers - any ideas?
>>
>> Just about anywhere - it's only an extra-long 3mm Allen key.  Most
>accessory shops have them -
>> try and get one with a proper T-handle rather than the 1/2" drive
>socket
>sort - there's too
>> much play to get the adjustment right.
>>
>> A 2mm ball-end Allen key is a useful tool for scraping the crud out
>of the
>adjuster.
>>
>> Remember to take the tool out before blipping the throttle.  A
>damaged
>screw is expen$ive to
>> repair.
>>
>> --
>>   Phil Payne
>>   http://www.isham-research.com/quattro
>>   +44 7785 302 803
>>   +49 173 6242039
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 5
>Reply-To: "Alexander van Gerbig" <Audi_80 at msn.com>
>From: "Alexander van Gerbig" <Audi_80 at email.msn.com>
>To: "Audi" <quattro at audifans.com>, "20v" <audi20v at rennlist.org>
>Subject: Anyone good at Statistical Analysis?
>Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 16:04:09 -0500
>
>    Sorry folks, but my brain hurts and the text book is just making
>worse.
>I am analyzing data from prepulse inhibition trials on two strains of
>mice
>for a research project and I'm a little lost in all the data.  If
>anyone is
>a wizard at statistical analysis, t-tests, probabilities, null
>hypothesis,
>and so on please give me a buzz.
>
>    On a lighter note I've seen mighty fine Audis around here lately.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Alexander van Gerbig
>'91 200q20v (Crunched)
>'90 90q20v (Sport)
>'88 80t (R.I.P)
>
>The Audi  80 Pages---------
>http://surf.to/the80pages.com
>
>North Ferrisburg, VT 05473
>
>
>
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>Message: 6
>Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 17:11:06 -0500
>To: quattro at audifans.com
>From: Brett Dikeman <brett at cloud9.net>
>Subject: survey: IA 20vt chip generating code 1111
>Cc: 200q20v at audifans.com
>
>Quick survey, please.  If you have a 200q20v or S-car and one of
>Ned's chips, please email me and let me know if your car throws a
>code 1111(on the 3B, this is a "bad ecu" code; dunno what code it is
>for the S-cars.)  I'd like to know three things: which car, which
>level of mod(III, III+, etc), and whether you get the code or not(I
>want to hear from both.)
>
>Basically, my 200q20v generates the code within about 4-5 minutes of
>starting the engine; it is extremely repeatable.  Pull fuse to reset,
>put fuse back, start car, boom, get code.  I've confirmed it is not a
>grounding problem; besides, the car was perfectly fine before the ECU
>was shipped out; this only cropped up when the ECU came back.
>
>Note:I have a light I specifically installed in the dash check engine
>light position.  Only CA cars have this bulb installed from the
>factory; if you have an IA ecu but no bulb, and have a few minutes to
>kill, please go and pull the codes from the ECU to make sure there is
>no 1111 code stored.  If it doesn't light up at all during normal
>operation(switching on the ignition etc) then you don't have the bulb
>installed.  Incidentally, installing the bulb is very easy and I
>highly recommend it(and no, you don't need to pull the wheel or
>airbag or anything.)
>
>If someone wouldn't mind forwarding this to the S-car list, I'd
>appreciate it.
>
>Much obliged.
>
>Brett
>PS:ah, of course, reply in private with your details.  I'll
>tally+summarize back to the list in a bit.
>--
>----
>"They that give up essential liberty to obtain temporary
>safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Ben Franklin
>http://www.users.cloud9.net/~brett/
>
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>Message: 7
>From: "Jim Haseltine" <Jim at Ur-q.freeserve.co.uk>
>To: "audifans" <quattro at audifans.com>, <urq at audifans.com>
>Subject: Sometimes I wonder...
>Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 22:21:58 -0000
>
>There's an expression used in the north of England which goes
>something
>like -
>'All the world's mad except you and me - and sometimes I wonder about
>you....'
>
>This lunchtime I was waiting at an intersection when I spotted a
>Lotus
>Esprit (nothing too unusual about that, there are a few in this area).
>It
>came across me from right to left and I then twigged that the driver
>was
>sitting on the 'wrong' side. Took a look at the rear end to see that
>it was
>Italian registered.
>
>Hm. Maybe a better choice than a pos Fiat or an Alfasud but really -
>a
>Lotus? In Italy?
>
>Like I said - sometimes I wonder......
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Jim Haseltine
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>Message: 8
>Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 17:28:22 -0500
>To: j.d.larson at verizon.net
>From: Dave Hord <spokes at mail.the-wire.com>
>Subject: Re: Parts prices?
>Cc: quattro at audifans.com
>
>John,
>
>Before you have a shift boot made (which I gather will be a few $$),
>Vibrant Performance makes a universal shift boot (5 colours, available
>in
>suede or leather) that will work in your car.
>
>Can't tell you what the list price is on it...my price lists are at
>work.
>
>Check out www.vibrantpower.com  (go to e-product guide at the top,
>select
>the left catalogue, and look at page 29).
>
>Email me if you need to find a retailler in your area.
>
>-Dave
>
>
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>
>Message: 9
>Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 17:44:39 -0500
>To: quattro at audifans.com
>From: Dave Hord <spokes at mail.the-wire.com>
>Subject: Used car BEWARE!!
>
>Toronto area listers beware...
>
>The Ad (for reference):
>http://www.trader.ca/Search/Details.asp?UID=645ED7332E8A408DA3AC93A012FA
BA86&CAT=1
>
>I went to look at an car for sale in the auto trader today.  I'm
>posting
>this so that you don't end up wasting your time as I did.  The seller
>lied
>to my father and I about the car, we tripped him up on the following:
>
>Problems with the car:
>3 different stories on why he's selling it
>Runs on 4 cylinders "probably wires"
>Both Calipers,  rear parking brake seized
>RR caliper, completely siezed
>Dash lights work..then they don't.
>Anti-lock brake light on..then off..then on.
>Drivetrain noise is bad.
>Shift Linkage worn out
>Body has "original paint". No, actually that's a repaint.
>"Car may not start easily, it hasn't been run for a long while"  ->
>Wait,
>car starts on first crank...pop the hood and 'Surprise!' the intake
>manifold is HOT (meaning, when I called and said we'll come look at it
>in
>the next four hours .  When we pointed this out he stumbled quite a
>bit to
>get around the issue.
>Told me on the phone he just replaced the "Catalisor".  -> Wait, no.
>In
>person he says he replaced it ten months ago.
>He will tell you on the phone that the $3800 asking price is
>certified, but
>in person it's not. It was "certified ten months ago when I bought the
>car".
>Lowest price he will go is $3500.
>Body is straight. Interior is not badly worn.  Both my father and I
>have
>SERIOUS doubts that the 240,000km claimed is the truth.
>
>THE LAST AND MOST IMPORTANT WARNING:  For $3800 he will certify and
>emissions pass the car - we DO NOT believe he will do this
>legitimately and
>honestly! You have been warned!
>
>HTH someone!
>
>-Dave
>
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 10
>From: Sonar465 at aol.com
>Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 17:51:20 EST
>Subject: '89 200 TQ ?
>To: quattro at audifans.com
>
>--
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>I am looking at a '89 200TQ that has 39K miles on it.  I am going to
>replace
>my kind of beat up '87 5K TQ.  Do the '89's use the same computer as
>the
>'87's ?  I have a IA Stage II box in my '87 and would love to transfer
>it
>over to the '89 if they are compatible.
>
>Cheers,
>Jim
>
>'87 5KTQ-IA Stage II, Fuchs Wheels, Euro lights
>'84 Ur-q-TAP Puter, Compomotive's, H&R's, Euro Lights
>
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>Message: 11
>Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 01:23:34 +0100
>From: Per Lindgren <lindgre at online.no>
>To: quattro <quattro at audifans.com>
>Subject: Help make E-codes the standard in North America
>
>I just read this on VWVortex, this should interest you people that
>like
>to see where you're driving at night. Go to
>http://lighting.mbz.org/.nhtsa/ and fight for yor lights! ;-)
>
>PerL
>92 Cabrio 2.3E
>
>
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>
>Message: 12
>From: "Tim Penasack" <tpenasack at mediaone.net>
>To: <quattro at audifans.com>
>Subject: 4Ktq MAC-11 wiring changes
>Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 20:13:11 -0500
>
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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>Listers-
>
>I am looking for some specific BTDT's regarding where to wire the MC-2
>harn=
>ess into the stock 4k harness for power.  If anyone has a wiring
>diagram on=
> how they did it that would be great. I temporarily ran specific leads
>hot =
>in order to check for spark but know I need to blend them into the 4kq
>harn=
>ess permanently.
>
>Any help will be greatly appreciated.
>
>-Tim
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>
>
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>Message: 13
>Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 20:34:30 -0500
>To: quattro at hj.no, quattro at audifans.com
>From: Brett Dikeman <brett at cloud9.net>
>Subject: Re: Audi / VW catalog
>
>At 2:01 PM +0100 3/10/02, Thomas Holst-J=CAger wrote:
>>Hi,
>>
>>I trust you all know about this site, but I am new to the
>audifans.com.
>>This site is a MUST for parts, prices and self maitenance.
>>
>>http://catalog.exist.ru
>>
>
>It is Euro-specific and IMHO semi-reliable; I found numerous wrong
>part numbers when trying to order trim for my 200q20v, for example.
>Because you have no idea if the part is the same as in the US(or even
>if it is, you have no idea if the number is correct in the first
>place) it isn't to be relied upon.
>
>
>>Does anyone know where to download the Bentley  repair manual for
>>Audi 100 92-98 2.8 Q ?
>
>It's not free.  Try buying it.
>
>Brett
>--
>----
>"They that give up essential liberty to obtain temporary
>safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Ben Franklin
>http://www.users.cloud9.net/~brett/
>
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>
>Message: 14
>Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 19:34:41 -0600
>From: Mark Switek <msswitek at pcpros.net>
>Reply-To: msswitek at pcpros.net
>To: quattro digest <quattro at audifans.com>
>Subject: suggestion for broken bleed screw
>
>I haven't broken a bleed screw in well over 20 years but I teach
>automotive in a college in which occasionally a student breaks one
>and
>here are some suggestions.
>First of all, if the screw doesn't come loose with light to moderate
>pressure I heat the screw with a torch. Get it red hot and quench it
>with water. the heat will expand the screw and break the corrosion.
>You
>may have to heat it a number of times to actually get it loose.
>Since it is now broken, if you have access to a mig welder, you can
>weld
>a nut onto the bleeder. This gives you something to grab onto and the
>heat from the welding will help break through the corrosion. Again
>you
>may go through a few nuts before you are successful.
>After the bleed screw is out I will anti seize the screw into the
>caliper. This along with making sure it has the rubber cap on it will
>allow you to get it loose the next time you need to bleed the brakes.
>The caps are hard to buy in the after market so if it is missing I
>will
>put a gob of silicone gasket sealer over the bleed orifice to keep
>dirt
>and water out so again it doesn't corrode back into the caliper. Hope
>you have access to the tools and this process will help.
>
>Mark Switek
>92 s4
>98 A4tq
>
>
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>
>Message: 15
>From: "Mike Posner" <posne at cts.com>
>To: "jim rose" <sf5ktq at hotmail.com>, <quattro at isham-research.com>,
>	<quattro at audifans.com>
>Subject: RE: speaking of tools...
>Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 18:50:45 -0800
>
>Just picked up a diesel injector tester/cleaner which looks like a
>mall bottle jack with a brake line attached and a glass reservoir for
>the
>cleaner.  The attached meter reads to 140 BARS. I plan to adapt this
>Rube
>Goldberg contraption to clean my cis injectors
>on my 90 200, and 240 turbo wagon. Can't imagine injectors needing 140
>Bars
>pressure to open!.
>
>Mike Posner, Encinitas,Ca.
>
>
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>
>Message: 16
>Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 19:05:45 -0800 (PST)
>From: "P. Stegawski" <piotrs at u.washington.edu>
>To: quattro at audifans.com
>Subject: 200 wheel upgrade
>
>I have a '90 200 (10v) with stock BBS 15in wheels. I can get a deal
>on
>nice 17 by 7.5 wheels with 35mm offset. Will these work with the car
>without rubbing anywhere. What tire size should I use? There doesn't
>seem
>to be much room in the back fender well so will 215/45, or even
>225/45
>tires work. The stock tires are 205/60 R15. Am I going to see lot
>more
>road harshness with this wheel/tire setup?
>
>So if anyone put that size wheel on their 5000TQ/200 please let me
>know,
>
>Thanks,
>
>Peter
>
>
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>
>Message: 17
>To: quattro at audifans.com
>Cc: dc2002 at sprintmail.com
>Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 19:26:06 -0500
>Subject: Re: quattro digest, Vol 1 #3082 - 8 msgs
>From: Larry C Leung <l.leung at juno.com>
>
>>From: "Carl and Dawn" <dc2002 at sprintmail.com>
>>To: "The Quattro List" <quattro at audifans.com>
>>Subject: Suggestions for broken bleed nipple on rear caliper, if you
>>please
>>Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 09:46:10 -0500
>>
>>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>>--
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>>Hi all,
>>
>>Well, I got a rear caliper rebuild kit and did the passenger side
>>yesterday=
>> without any issues.  I did the drivers side this morning and after
>I
>>got i=
>>t all back together, I broke the bleed nipple, that baby was siezed
>in
>>ther=
>>e=2E  Is a new caliper in order or can they be saved after a nipple
>is
>>brok=
>>en in there.  It is a shame because it now has all new seals and
>>boots.
>>
>>Carl
>>--
>>
>
>Try using an EZ-out, I found that the pound in the square type works
>better than the reverse thread type in this situation, there just
>isn't
>enough material in the bleeder to get enough purchase from the
>reverse
>thread EZ-out.
>
>Alternately, if the EZ-out doesn't work, it's worth the try to save
>the
>caliper using a two piece nipple, probably will have to find a speed
>shop
>or serious auto parts store to find them. Drill out the old nipple
>using
>the appropriate size drill, drill for the specified tap, screw in the
>new
>nipple using teflon tape. The only problem is that the nipple is
>smaller,
>so using a vacuum bleeder will NOT work, which is okay per the type
>44,
>they specify a pressure bleed set-up. Worked fine for my GTi, which I
>Solo2 race.
>
>LL - NY
>
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>
>Message: 18
>Reply-To: "Alexander van Gerbig" <Audi_80 at msn.com>
>From: "Alexander van Gerbig" <Audi_80 at email.msn.com>
>To: "Audi" <quattro at audifans.com>, "20v" <audi20v at rennlist.org>
>Subject: Bad Dog Motorsports
>Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 23:07:35 -0500
>
>    Renaming the business to Bad Dog Motorsports, our new logo:
>
>http://www.uvm.edu/~avangerb/jazzaudilogo.jpg
>http://www.uvm.edu/~avangerb/jazzaudi.jpg
>
>Roomate's dog named Jazz, cute little bugger.  I'm not changing the
>name of
>the business, but now I've got a mascot.
>
>Cheers!
>
>Alexander van Gerbig
>'91 200q20v (Crunched)
>'90 90q20v (Sport)
>'88 80t (R.I.P)
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