> > The sun visor on my 87 5ktq has a tendency > > to assume the down position without any help at all. > > Velcro my man, velcro. watch out, if you velcro the visor to the headliner, the headliner will just start to sag, since it is not really held in place by anything substantial. -- Huw Powell http://www.humanspeakers.com/ http://www.humanthoughts.org/