91 200q for cheap

[SJ]

More info on the 91 200.

Car is from Denver Colorado - Father's car. New owner(son) had car for 8
months. Selling the car because he needs SUV type for family.
The father is into audi's. Presently, father has A6 for wife, A8 for
himself.
The 200 was dealer maintained for its life, except for last 8 months.
Color is burgundy, leather inside is tan.
I was talking to the wife, she is not sure if they have the maintenance
records.

Cresskill, NJ is an upscale(money) community. It is located just across the
Hudson River from Yonkers NY.

No affiliation, just curious.

SJ
85 4k - - sold but still on the road
88 5kq
90 100q

Message: 11
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 15:37:14 -0500
From: t44tq at mindspring.com
Subject: 91 200q for cheap
To: 200q20V at audifans.com, s-car-list at audifans.com,
quattro at audifans.com

Just saw this in the local paper classifieds:

AUDI 1991 200 Quattro, 125k, Turbo, all wheel dr , 1 owner, well
maintained. $4,800 obo 201 567-3889
Source: Suburbanite, Cresskill, NJ, 07626-1343


No affiliation.

Taka


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>    1. Re:Struts replaced ... now won't start?  [4kq] (SJ)
>    2. Re:Audis made in Germany (Mihnea Cotet)
>    3. Re:Audis made in Germany (Ti Kan)
>    4. Re:93 100 CSQW: Overheating / Coolant Loss (Huw Powell)
>    5. RE:really scary engineering, twin engine idea (Steve Sears)
>    6. Re:Re: Audis made in Germany (iain.atkinson at tesco.net)
>    7. A history lesson (iain.atkinson at tesco.net)
>    8. [87 1/2] Coupe - Rear Used Hub Source? (AV8oR)
>    9. RE:Type 44 Blower R&R - Initiation Ceremony? (Livolsi, Stephane)
>   10. Re:Audis made in Germany (Zsolt)
>   11. 91 200q for cheap (t44tq at mindspring.com)
>   12. Re:Type 44 Blower R&R - Initiation Ceremony? (Tom Nas)
>   13. RE:93 100 CSQW: Overheating / Coolant Loss (Eric Billing)
>   14. Re:93 100 CSQW: Overheating / Coolant Loss (TEX TERRY, II)
>   15. Re:[87 1/2] Coupe - Rear Used Hub Source? (Huw Powell)
>   16. Re:93 100 CSQW: Overheating / Coolant Loss (Huw Powell)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 14:57:20 -0500
> From: SJ <syljay at optonline.net>
> Subject: Re: Struts replaced ... now won't start?  [4kq]
> To: quattro at audifans.com
> Cc: rjh_tsi at yahoo.com
>
> Two things come to mind with "cold start then dies" symptoms:
>
> One: you have an air leak.
> The car starts because the "choke" injector gives it extra gas. But this
> injector cuts out after a few seconds, leaving you with a lean mixture and
> the engine dies.
> When I had this same problem, I found the rubber boot leading from the air
> flow sensor/fuel regulator assy to the intake manifold had cracks in it  .
.
> . in the bellows area. Silicone rubber cement fixed that temporarily until
I
> got a replacement from a junkyard.
> Or, you may have air leaks someplace else. Like an ISV valve stuck in open
> position, or disconnected/broken/cracked vacuum lines.
>
> Two: A sensor is telling your ECU that the engine is warm.
> The engiine starts up with extra juice from "choke" injector, but then
dies
> because the ECU is being provided with wrong info from defective temp
> sensor, which is telling the ECU that the engine is warm . . .so the ECU
> leans out the mixture and the engine stalls.
>
> I think on a cold engine, the sensor should read zero. The Bentley gives
you
> instructions for bypassing this sensor . . I think its a short for cold
> engine and 14k ohms for warm engine . . . . .but dont quote me on this.
> I think on the earlier cars this sensor was called the thermoswitch, which
> the ECU used for open loop operation before the Oxygen Sensor kicked
> in(closed loop).
>
> Hope that helps with your troubleshooting.
>
> SJ
> 85 4k - - sold but still on the road
> 88 5kq
> 90 100q
>
> > Message: 12
> > Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 07:27:58 -0800 (PST)
> > From: "Bob H." <rjh_tsi at yahoo.com>
> > Reply-To: bob at hodgeman.org
> > Subject: Struts replaced ... now won't start?  [4kq]
> > To: quattro at audifans.com
> >
> > The car's been up on jack stands for about a month and a half while I
> > found the time to replace the strut cartridges (thanks to everyone who's
> > helped with that effort).
> >
> > Now, after charging the dead battery, the car won't start.  Well,
> > actually, it starts, runs for a second or two, then just dies.  If I
give
> > it any gas during the few seconds that it is running ... it dies
> > immediately.
> >
> > I've charged the battery three times now, and I get about 10 good cranks
> > per charge.  And, it still hasn't started.  I didn't touch anything
under
> > the hood, except that I had disconnected the negative battery terminal.
> > That looks to be making good contact, though.
> >
> > Ideas?
> >
> > -Bob
> >  '86 4kq beater
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 21:31:23 +0100
> To: "Ice Cat      ^. .^   ~" <iceisit at earthlink.net>,
> quattro at audifans.com
> From: Mihnea Cotet <mik at backus.info.fundp.ac.be>
> Subject: Re: Audis made in Germany
>
> At 15:17 4/11/2002 -0500, Ice Cat      ^. .^   ~ wrote:
> >Does anyone know where abouts in the country of Germany the Audis are
made ?
> >
> >Or are they produced all over the country ?
>
>
> The type 44 (5k and 200) were made in Neckarsulm and the others were made
> in Ingolstadt. Right now the TT is produced in Hungary, dunno where
exactly
> but I sure won't like to have a TT, especially if it's made there. :-)
>
>
> Mihnea
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 3
> From: Ti Kan <ti at amb.org>
> Subject: Re: Audis made in Germany
> To: iceisit at earthlink.net (Ice Cat ^. .^ ~)
> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:31:11 -0800 (PST)
> Cc: quattro at audifans.com
>
> > Does anyone know where abouts in the country of Germany the Audis are
made ?
> > Or are they produced all over the country ?
>
> Audi's main assembly plants are in Ingolstadt and Neckarsulm.  Many parts
> are shipped in from elsewhere, though.
>
> -Ti
> 2003 A4 1.8T multitronic
> 2001 S4 biturbo 6-sp
> 1984 5000S turbo
> 1980 4000 2.0 5-sp
> --
>     ///  Ti Kan                Vorsprung durch Technik
>    ///   AMB Laboratories, Sunnyvale, CA. USA
>   ///    ti at amb.org
>  //////  http://www.amb.org/ti/
> ///
>
>
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>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 15:39:10 -0500
> From: Huw Powell <human747 at attbi.com>
> Reply-To: human747 at attbi.com
> Organization: HUMAN Speakers
> To: Eric Billing <eric.billing at eds.com>
> Cc: Quattro List <quattro at audifans.com>
> Subject: Re: 93 100 CSQW: Overheating / Coolant Loss
>
>
> > So this morning, with spare bottle of coolant in hand, I left for work.
32
> > degrees here in Mpls. My commute is mostly highway for about 40 minutes.
> > About 15 minutes into it, I notice that the temp gauge is pushing
towards=
>  1
> > o=92clock. Another 15 minutes, and it=92s a little higher, but appears
to=
>  have
> > stabilized (definitely above normal, though). AT this point, I=92m
starti=
> ng to
> > smell the =93hot smell=94 of coolant on the exhaust manifold. As I pull
i=
> nto the
> > office parking lot, the coolant/overheat warning light comes on. I pull
i=
> nto
> > a parking spot, pop the hood (car still running) and observe slightly
low
> > coolant level in the reservoir, and steam rising from the firewall area.
> > Down below reveals a series of dripping from both sides.
>
> > b)       The coolant level was not terribly low this AM=97yet the
> > overheat/coolant light came on. This, to me suggests overheat more than
l=
> ow
> > coolant. Make sense? If so what does this suggest?
>
> thermostat not opening, or radiator fan not coming on, with any luck.
> Easy "outside the engine" things to fix.  If it is a head gasket it will
> be more work and money.
>
> There was some chatter here about testing radiator thermo switches, and
> wiring, about three weeks ago I think.  When was the last time your
> thermostat was changed?  A new one couldn't hurt...
>
> --
> Huw Powell
>
> http://www.humanspeakers.com/
>
> http://www.humanthoughts.org/
>
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>
> Message: 5
> Reply-To: "Steve Sears" <steve.sears at SHOESsoil-mat.on.ca>
> From: "Steve Sears" <steve.sears at soil-mat.on.ca>
> To: <quattro at audifans.com>
> Subject: RE: really scary engineering, twin engine idea
> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:33:20 -0500
>
> The twin engine concept is not a new one - witness the Citroen 2CV 4x4
> Sahara:
> http://members.fortunecity.com/wibmerpeter/sahara/sahaeng1.htm
> (Could be a "Maria" above the Citroen logos, you'll have to ask Peter W.)
> ;-)
> and, even, a twin-engined DKW ice racer (Note to the West Toronto Audifans
> "Ice Patrol" - no, I will not be modifying any of my Juniors to recreate
> this car):
> http://members.fortunecity.com/wibmerpeter/dkw/bimotor.html
> Cheers!
> Steve Sears
> 1987 5kTQ
> 1980 5k
> 1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
> [SPAM Blocker Note: Remove SHOES to reply]
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 6
> From: <iain.atkinson at tesco.net>
> To: Mihnea Cotet <mik at backus.info.fundp.ac.be>,
> "Ice Cat      ^. .^   ~" <iceisit at earthlink.net>,
> quattro at audifans.com
> Cc: quattro at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: Re: Audis made in Germany
> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 20:47:06 +0000
>
> For the record TT bodyshells are made at Ingolstadt then shipped by rail
in=
>  sealed conatainers for final assembly, they then get reailroaded back to
I=
> ngolstadt for a quality check then they get put in a bag that covers the
en=
> tire car and then shipped wherever in the world they may go.
>
> Part of the paint process involves the bodyshell of the TT being out
throug=
> h a carwash with no water just hige brushes made of ostrich feathers to
dus=
> t them off before the top coats of paint are put on, the brushes cost
=A350=
> K gbp each.
>
> Iain
> >
> > From: Mihnea Cotet <mik at backus.info.fundp.ac.be>
> > Date: 2002/11/04 Mon PM 08:31:23 GMT
> > To: "Ice Cat      ^. .^   ~" <iceisit at earthlink.net>,
> > quattro at audifans.com
> > Subject: Re: Audis made in Germany
> >
> > At 15:17 4/11/2002 -0500, Ice Cat      ^. .^   ~ wrote:
> > >Does anyone know where abouts in the country of Germany the Audis are
ma=
> de ?
> > >
> > >Or are they produced all over the country ?
> >
> >
> > The type 44 (5k and 200) were made in Neckarsulm and the others were
made
> > in Ingolstadt. Right now the TT is produced in Hungary, dunno where
exact=
> ly
> > but I sure won't like to have a TT, especially if it's made there. :-)
> >
> >
> > Mihnea
> >
> >
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 7
> From: <iain.atkinson at tesco.net>
> To: quattro at audifans.com
> Subject: A history lesson
> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 20:53:22 +0000
>
> All this talk about where Audi's are made reminds me of a story i was told
=
> whilst out on a factory tour with work to Ingolstadt earlier this year.
>
> Audi just after the last world war had all their car producing factories
in=
>  east germany, now with that being in the hands of the russians they had a
=
> choice. Either make cheap russian cars or pack up, the packed up wound the
=
> company up and started again in west germany, the only reason they went to
=
> Ingolstadt was they had existing parts warehouses there which they
converte=
> d into car manufacturing plants, and the rest is history........
>
> Iain
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 15:53:11 -0500
> From: AV8oR <zpavelic at comcast.net>
> Subject: [87 1/2] Coupe - Rear Used Hub Source?
> To: quattro at audifans.com
> Reply-To: AV8oR <zpavelic at comcast.net>
>
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> Haudi!
>
> It's time for me to do some more work on the Coupe. I got new 16" Montegis
w/ Dunlop Sports a couple of weeks ago.
> Absolutely love them!
>
> The kid who mounted them screwed up the threads - Store doesn't take
responsibility. Now I am driving around with
> three lug-studs around. I was wondering If someone knew where I could find
a used/cheap replacement hub for
> the right rear.
>
> Thanks Fellas!
>
> Zaf
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 9
> From: "Livolsi, Stephane" <Stephane.Livolsi at investorsgroup.com>
> To: Audi Quattro List <quattro at audifans.com>
> Subject: RE: Type 44 Blower R&R - Initiation Ceremony?
> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:06:13 -0600
>
> Ditto! but in all fairness to the Audi engineers and designers, I don't
> think they ever expected that people would still be keeping these cars
alive
> after 16 years so it wasn't planned to be accessed.  The list and research
> indicate that this is highly likely the most difficult repair on these
cars.
> Basically if you are willing to tackle this, you have made up your mind
that
> you are going to keep the car for a long time still, and that the
condition
> of the rest of the car warrants keeping it.
>
> So far I have only done it on the 84 5kt that I am stripping.  It's nice
to
> have a parts car to practice on.  Unfortunately, the 86 5ktq daily driver
> needs a heater core and blower motor so they are on the agenda.
> When I did the 84, I think I spent most of the time looking for hidden
> fasteners, even though I did believe fellow listers who said it was only
> held on by the gasket glue.  That is good stuff and should have made nuts,
> bolts, screws and nails obsolete by now.  I was thinking of pouring some
> sort of solvent around the gasket to see if I could dissolve it.  I am
going
> to try various chemicals on the remnants of the 84 gasket that maybe I can
> use on the 86.
>
> Funny thing is that it looked like someone had previously gotten into the
> heater box by cutting it open at the fan.  It was epoxied back together.
> However, when I took out the blower motor the brushes and armature are
worn
> way down.  I have never, ever seen an armature gouged out like this one.
> Leads me to believe that this is still the original motor (128000 miles on
> the car).  So why did they cut open the heater box?  Couldn't have been
for
> the heater core because where they cut would not give access. Bizarre.
>
> Stephane
>
>
>
> > ----------
> > From: mike mcclurg[SMTP:rrrrraudi at yahoo.com]
> > Sent: November 4, 2002 10:50 AM
> > To: quattro at audifans.com
> > Subject: Type 44 Blower R&R - Initiation Ceremony?
> >
> > Type 44 Blower R&R - Initiation Ceremony?
> >
> > I have a lot of respect for German auto engineering,
> > but is this regard, I have to ask if it was
> > engineering or accident that allows you to just barely
> > remove the heater/blower assembly in a Type 44? What a
> > royal pain, and just to replace a blower. When the car
> > starts out as just a painted steel shell on the
> > assembly line, the heater/blower has to be the first
> > thing installed. Think how easy it would be at that
> > time to drop it in and glue the crap out of it. That
> > guy has got to be still laughing, thinking about the
> > poor SOB trying to remove it. Does anybody have a book
> > that gives the shop manhours to remove and replace the
> > assembly? I'd hate to pay dealer rates for this job!
> > Probably cost more than the car is worth?
> >
> > At any rate, if your were ever going to start an Audi
> > DIY Hall of Fame, this should be a prerequisite to
> > nomination.
> >
> > Mike (the guy with skin left on only one knuckle)
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do you Yahoo!?
> > HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now
> > http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/
> >
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 13:58:25 -0700
> From: Zsolt <zsolt1 at telusplanet.net>
> To: Mihnea Cotet <mik at backus.info.fundp.ac.be>, quattro at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: Audis made in Germany
>
> The TT is made in Gyo"r in Hungary (half way between Budapest and Vienna).
> http://www.audi.hu/
> I don't know about the quality, but I found this article.
> http://www.autoweb.com.au/section_14/id_AUDTT-/gallery_9/newcars/info.html
>
> Cheers,
> Zsolt
>
> Mihnea Cotet wrote:
>
> > At 15:17 4/11/2002 -0500, Ice Cat ^. .^ ~ wrote:
> >
> >> Does anyone know where abouts in the country of Germany the Audis are
> >> made ?
> >>
> >> Or are they produced all over the country ?
> >
> >
> >
> > The type 44 (5k and 200) were made in Neckarsulm and the others were
made
> > in Ingolstadt. Right now the TT is produced in Hungary, dunno where
> > exactly
> > but I sure won't like to have a TT, especially if it's made there. :-)
>
> not sure if I should feel offended.
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Mihnea
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 15:37:14 -0500
> From: t44tq at mindspring.com
> Subject: 91 200q for cheap
> To: 200q20V at audifans.com, s-car-list at audifans.com,
> quattro at audifans.com
>
> Just saw this in the local paper classifieds:
>
> AUDI 1991 200 Quattro, 125k, Turbo, all wheel dr , 1 owner, well
> maintained. $4,800 obo 201 567-3889
> Source: Suburbanite, Cresskill, NJ, 07626-1343
>
>
> No affiliation.
>
> Taka
>
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>
> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 21:52:59 +0100
> To: quattro at audifans.com
> From: Tom Nas <tnas at euronet.nl>
> Subject: Re: Type 44 Blower R&R - Initiation Ceremony?
> Cc: mike mcclurg <rrrrraudi at yahoo.com>
>
> I tried to remove the blower motor assembly from a totally stripped type
44
> Avant recently. Spent some time on it, and came to the conclusion that it
> wasn't worth the trouble.
>
> Tom
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 13
> From: "Eric Billing" <eric.billing at eds.com>
> To: "Quattro List" <quattro at audifans.com>
> Subject: RE: 93 100 CSQW: Overheating / Coolant Loss
> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:02:37 -0600
>
>
>
> Thanks for the suggestion....
>
> Car currently has 132K. Replaced the thermostat once a long time
ago---maybe
> around 60K.
>
> I should add that the fan did not come on during the driveway idle test
> (30-45 minutes) yesterday. I attributed this to not reaching sufficient
temp
> to trigger that. When I got the warning light at work this AM, the fan was
> running. Also the fan does come on when I hit the AC compressor.
>
> I thought if the thermo was bad, that I'd get no heat, which I do. Heat
> seems normal.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Huw Powell [mailto:human747 at attbi.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 2:39 PM
> To: Eric Billing
> Cc: Quattro List
> Subject: Re: 93 100 CSQW: Overheating / Coolant Loss
>
> thermostat not opening, or radiator fan not coming on, with any luck.
> Easy "outside the engine" things to fix.  If it is a head gasket it will
> be more work and money.
>
> There was some chatter here about testing radiator thermo switches, and
> wiring, about three weeks ago I think.  When was the last time your
> thermostat was changed?  A new one couldn't hurt...
>
>
>
> --
> Huw Powell
>
> http://www.humanspeakers.com/
>
> http://www.humanthoughts.org/
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 14
> Reply-To: <texactii at csonline.net>
> From: "TEX TERRY, II" <texactii at csonline.net>
> To: <quattro at audifans.com>
> Cc: <eric.billing at eds.com>
> Subject: Re: 93 100 CSQW: Overheating / Coolant Loss
> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 16:12:12 -0500
>
> From: "Eric Billing" <eric.billing at eds.com>
> (snip)
> Looking for help diagnosing the sudden problem on my wagon (132K miles).
> >>>
> Next day (after getting some coolant) I filled the reservoir (added about
> 1/3 gallon) and idled the car for about 10 minutes. As the temp came up,
so
> did the coolant level in the reservoir. A few iterations of burping out
the
> air resulted in some coolant expanding out the cap of the reservoir, which
> was my only visible coolant loss. I let the car cool down, re-filled with
> additional coolant (about =BC gallon) to about mid-way between MIN/MAX,
and
> started her back up. Idled for another 30+ minutes. Temp gauge looks
normal
> (straight up). No leaks at all. Again the coolant expanded to beyond MAX,
> but did not come out of the expansion tank. I let her idle for another 15
> minutes or so. Temp gauge stays in the normal (I think) spot. Absolutely
no
> leaking back by the firewall.
> >>>
> So this morning, with spare bottle of coolant in hand, I left for work. 32
> degrees here in Mpls. My commute is mostly highway for about 40 minutes.
> About 15 minutes into it, I notice that the temp gauge is pushing towards
1
> o=92clock. Another 15 minutes, and it=92s a little higher, but appears to
> h=
> ave
> stabilized (definitely above normal, though). AT this point, I=92m
> starting=
>  to
> smell the =93hot smell=94 of coolant on the exhaust manifold. As I pull
> int=
> o the
> office parking lot, the coolant/overheat warning light comes on. I pull
> into
> a parking spot, pop the hood (car still running) and observe slightly low
> coolant level in the reservoir, and steam rising from the firewall area.
> Down below reveals a series of dripping from both sides.
> Questions:
> a)       Obviously, my ride to work was a little more stressful than
idling
> in the driveway. However, both were for 30+ minutes. Would the absence of
> symptom in the driveway scenario suggest anything useful?
> b)       The coolant level was not terribly low this AM=97yet the
> overheat/coolant light came on. This, to me suggests overheat more than
low
> coolant. Make sense? If so what does this suggest?
> c)       Any suggestions for additional things to check/test for?
> (snip)
>
> Have you checked the heater coolant circuit - hoses and valving?  You did
> not mention having the heater turned on while you were testing in your
> driveway, but one would think that you had the heater on while driving in
> the cold to work.  It sounds like you have a leak at either the heater
hose
> connection at the firewall, or at the heater shutoff valve.
>
> Tex Terry, II
> 83 5kt sedan (non-quattro)
> Franklin, PA  USA
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 16:18:05 -0500
> From: Huw Powell <human747 at attbi.com>
> Reply-To: human747 at attbi.com
> Organization: HUMAN Speakers
> To: AV8oR <zpavelic at comcast.net>
> Cc: quattro at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: [87 1/2] Coupe - Rear Used Hub Source?
>
>
> > It's time for me to do some more work on the Coupe. I got new 16"
Montegis w/ Dunlop Sports a couple of weeks ago.
> > Absolutely love them!
> >
> > The kid who mounted them screwed up the threads - Store doesn't take
responsibility. Now I am driving around with
> > three lug-studs around. I was wondering If someone knew where I could
find a used/cheap replacement hub for
> > the right rear.
>
> Try FWD audi 80's from 88-92; I believe they have the same rear axle set
> up.
>
> --
> Huw Powell
>
> http://www.humanspeakers.com/
>
> http://www.humanthoughts.org/
>
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>
> Message: 16
> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 16:28:50 -0500
> From: Huw Powell <human747 at attbi.com>
> Reply-To: human747 at attbi.com
> Organization: HUMAN Speakers
> To: Eric Billing <eric.billing at eds.com>
> Cc: Quattro List <quattro at audifans.com>
> Subject: Re: 93 100 CSQW: Overheating / Coolant Loss
>
>
> > Car currently has 132K. Replaced the thermostat once a long time
ago---maybe
> > around 60K.
>
> sounds overdue to me.
>
> > I should add that the fan did not come on during the driveway idle test
> > (30-45 minutes) yesterday. I attributed this to not reaching sufficient
temp
> > to trigger that. When I got the warning light at work this AM, the fan
was
> > running. Also the fan does come on when I hit the AC compressor.
>
> do all the fan speeds work?  That *may* be an issue, I'm not so familiar
> with these 3-4 speed fan cars.
>
> > I thought if the thermo was bad, that I'd get no heat, which I do. Heat
> > seems normal.
>
> the heater core is independent of the thermostat; it gets hot coolant
> all the time.  A thermostat that does not open would yield a cold
> radiator, at least at the bottom.
>
> A partly opening thermostat might allow some cooling, let the fan run,
> etc., without letting enough coolant into the radiator to properly
> control the engine/coolant temps.
>
> Since your thermostat is 70k old, that would also seem to indicate
> really old coolant to me.  This would be a good time to replace both,
> and perhaps take a good look at the hoses, remove and carefully clean up
> all the sensors that go into coolant, that sort of thing.
>
> > thermostat not opening, or radiator fan not coming on, with any luck.
> > Easy "outside the engine" things to fix.  If it is a head gasket it will
> > be more work and money.
> >
> > There was some chatter here about testing radiator thermo switches, and
> > wiring, about three weeks ago I think.  When was the last time your
> > thermostat was changed?  A new one couldn't hurt...
> >
> > --
> > Huw Powell
> >
> > http://www.humanspeakers.com/
> >
> > http://www.humanthoughts.org/
>
> --
> Huw Powell
>
> http://www.humanspeakers.com/
>
> http://www.humanthoughts.org/
>
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