[20v] H&R or Eibach Springs? '90-90Q20V

[Zsolt]

I have H&R and Koni Sport combo, and I don't find them too stiff at all.
I have them on my 88 5ktq.

I only have them on the front for now, because Koni recalled the rear
shocks we were about to put in. It's been 2 months now and I am hoping
to get them in the next couple of weeks, but as for the front, I was
even considering dialing them up a bit. (I have them on the softest
setting right now)

I would be curious where everybody has theirs set.

Thanks,
 Zsolt

Dan Sinclair wrote:

>I would echo Shayne's post.
>
>The Eibachs are not going to be as stiff as H&Rs.  I have Eibach ProKit springs on my CQ, and I'd say they're stiffer than stock, but still very drivable and compliant on rough roads etc.  I combine my Eibach's with Bilstien Sport shocks, which also contribute to the handling improvements.  I've ridden in H&R prepared cars, and they were a little stiffer/flatter than my car, but they were a little less forgiving on strait line bumps and such as well.  If you're considering Delrin bushings and/or low profile tires in the mix, consider that those will further exaggerate bumps and chop.
>
>The Eibach's are indeed a non-linear spring - meaning that in strait line driving and mild turns they give a little more, but when pushed, they compress and stiffen up.  Again, this translates to a little more roll, dive, and squat than the H&Rs, but a smoother ride overall.  The H&Rs are going to be slightly stiffer all the way around - pushed or otherwise.
>
>Like most things, it depends greatly on your preference, your standard for comparison, and your intended use.  As a side note, if you're considering track driving as an 'intended use' go with the H&Rs.  The Eibach's are better suited for improved 'street' handling.
>
>As for the amount of drop, I was always told just the opposite of what you were told.  I was given ProKit drop to be 1.00" or so, while H&Rs were quoted at 1.5".  The drop on my CQ was about perfect for me.  Right around an inch or so.
>
>Hope that helps.
>
>Dan
>1990 CQ
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Shayne [mailto:thequattroking at yahoo.com]
>Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 12:29 AM
>To: David Thoresen; 20v at audifans.com
>Cc: quattro at audifans.com
>Subject: Re: [20v] H&R or Eibach Springs? '90-90Q20V
>
>
>I can give some feedback.  I did some real indepth research about a year ago
>when I designed the suspension on my MBZ 280 SEL.  I wanted either company
>to make a run of springs for that car.  To the point.  Eibach makes their
>springs about 20% stiffer then stock and MOST springs they say are NOT
>linear.  H&R on the other hand makes their springs about 30% stiffer than
>stock and MOST ARE linear.  I have H&R on my V8q5 and love them.  With the
>sports, the ride is very firm but not harsh.  Even with Delrin up front.  As
>for Spax, one of my very good friends has an Avant with Spax coil overs.  It
>is bordering on harsh on rough roads.  VERY firm on most everyday roads.
>Not uncomfortably so.  And, this friend loves them, amazing considering he
>is 62.  But, physically more like a 77 year old.
>
>I hope this helps you a little.
>
>Shayne P.
>
>
>Oakland, CA.
>
>Enough Audis to give plenty of headaches.
>
>Parting:  1972 Mercedes Benz 280 SE 4.5
>
>
>
>>From: David Thoresen <david at epicfoto.com>
>>Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 22:16:25 -0800
>>To: 20v at audifans.com
>>Cc: quattro at audifans.com
>>Subject: [20v] H&R or Eibach Springs?  '90-90Q20V
>>
>>Both about the same price, Blau says the H&R lowers the car 1.25" and
>>NOPI says Eibach lowers the car 1.4"... anyone have anything
>>positive/negative to say about either of them?  I am planning on using
>>KYB Shocks with this setup...  I also am somewhat looking at the SPAX
>>lowering kit... its cheap but I understand the ride is harsh...
>>
>>Thanks!
>>David
>>1990 90Q 20V
>>
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