(I want) more torque from a NG motor

[edkellock at juno.com]

I obviously struck a dis-chord with my reference to a hollow cat.  Me
aculpa.

Unfortunately the subsequent storm has washed away the original point.  A
freer flowing exhaust can improve torque.  The manifold on the NG is
already pretty good.  A subsequent system that scavenges well (the
momentum of the flow sort of pulls itself along) can really fatten up the
torque feel.

In my GTI, I had a 4-2-1 manifold/downpipe that was very smooth.  Easy to
do with that transverse engine.  Not impossible on an NG.  Get a hi-flow
cat and some 2.5-inch pipe from there back.  I have a glass pack and a
turbo muffler out back.  Not very elegant but very functional.

Ed

On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 22:50:47 -0700 edkellock at juno.com writes:
> Assuming all tune-up items are in good shape already...
>
> I think the easiest way to get more torque is to open up the exhaust
> so
> it scavenges better.  On my CGT/NG, I have a hollow kitty and a
> free
> flowing 2.5-inch system back from there.  It draws very well and
> sounds
> great too.  I've previously gained low-end torque on a GTI in the
> same
> manner.
>
> Another thing that can really affect the  feeling of torque is
> wheel/tire
> weight.  If you have aftermarket wheels and/or larger wheels tires,
> you
> may be sapping some power with extra weight.
>
> I had two non-NG CGT's prior to this one and my first impression
> was
> similar to yours.  I've driven a couple of 4kq's since and still
> enjoy
> the NG more... well mine anyway.  ;-)
>
> One torque-trick on the JT is to advance the ignition timing.
> Unfortunately on the NG that is not possible.  Where there is
> usually a
> bolt, there is a permanent plug hammered in to prevent adjustment.
> Some
> have written about circumventing that however.  I have no further
> information on that.
>
> Ed
> Colorado Springs
>
> On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:55:03 EST MXHOWES at aol.com writes:
> > ?85 4kq (JT engine, 2.2L 115hp) vrs. ?88 80q (NG engine 2.3L
> > 130hp)
> >
> > It has taken me a couple of years to figure this out but I just
> > don't enjoy
> > driving my 80q as much as my 4kq. I think my biggest dislike with
> > the 80q is
> > the motor. First, let me say that I drive like a little old lady
> and
> > around
> > town work the motor in the 2-3000 rpm range. The JT was perfectly
> > happy
> > running on 87 octane and pulled great at 2500 (just what the
> specs
> > show). The
> > NG barely runs on 91 octane, doesn't start moving till 3500 and
> is
> > addicted
> > to Toulene.
> > In going thru the archives I can find lots of information on more
> > power but
> > nothing on getting more bottom end. I am not interested in a turbo
> > conversion
> > and will stay with the 10:1 cr. I am thinking along the line of a
> > cam or chip
> > or? Any BTDT out there or am I the only Audifan out there who
> > doesn't care
> > about having 200+ hp?
> >
> > Thanks, Jim
> >
> >
>
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