Snow Tire Recommendation

Larry C Leung l.leung at juno.com
Sun Sep 15 23:57:35 EDT 2002


I was actually trying to not go to a 205 size, if so I could've bought
lister Chi Wong's
'91 200 20VTQ BBS's which looked nice on the car. The 7.5 width couldn't
fit anything
narrower than 205s. I just want to give her a narrower tire that, as she
asked, should
be good on ice. Sounds like the Dunlops to me, unless someone can tell me
otherwise.
I'm concerned that the GY UltraGrips as offered by TireRack may be one of
those squirrly
when dry tires, as they aren't the H-rated ones Burl Vibert mentioned.
Any other suggestions?

LL - NY


On Sat, 14 Sep 2002 17:00:00 -0400 "ricematthews" <ricematthews at msn.com>
writes:
> Larry:
>
> If you want to step up in width to a 205/60/15, Tire Rack has a
> Pirelli
> Wintersport 190 in that size for $65.  They should be similar in
> diameter or
> a hair smaller than the 195/65/15.  I almost went with them, but
> decided to
> go with 16 inch wheels (thanks Ebay!).  No reviews available on Tire
> Rack
> for these tires, but I assume they are very similar to the
> Wintersport 210
> (I believe the same tread pattern) with a lower speed rating.
>
> -Mark
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry C Leung" <l.leung at juno.com>
> To: <ricematthews at msn.com>; <quattro at audifans.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 1:18 PM
> Subject: Re: Snow Tire Recommendation
>
>
> > 195/65-15
> >
> > Same size as A4's and T44's with stock brakes. I'm currently
> running
> > Kelly Pacemark
> > snows (same size as I still have G-60s) and have found them
> adequate in
> > the dry
> > and rain, which is what a majority of the winter weather brings
> in
> > suburban NYC.
> > The snow performance is really quite good, decent traction (yup,
> > quattro), decent
> > braking, and good stability and cornering grip in the snow and
> ice. Ice
> > braking is
> > just decent, but overall the advantage I see in them is
> controllability.
> > I have had
> > experience with Yokohama Blizzak equivalents and I have found that
> their
> > dry
> > capabilities are, as you describe, scary. Totally numb. Great snow
> and
> > particularly
> > ice and hard pack tire, however. As I was living in the snow belt
> in NY,
> > the dry
> > performance took a back seat. BTW, I also had pacemarks on my 4KQ
> whilst
> > in the
> > the snowbelt, and found them quite acceptable and inexpensive to
> boot.
> > So being it, since my Mom doesn't have any rims to use on the
> Passat, and
> > noting
> > that Tire Rack has good prices on steel rims that are actually
> Hub
> > Centric (Discount
> > Tire does NOT sell hub centric rims, just universal fit steels), I
> feel
> > that I'm limited
> > to what they have to offer. I am assuming that the you feel that
> the
> > Dunlops will have
> > that spongy feel that the Yoks and Blizzaks have, correct? Too bad
> no one
> > has experience
> > with the GY's, at least that's responded so far.
> >
> > BTW, the Michelin Artic Alpins that are on the inherited Subie are
> pretty
> > darn good in
> > the dry and wet, admittedly on a 4KQ sized and weight car. I just
> found
> > that their
> > fresh snow (powder was downright scary compared to my Pacemarks,
> wet snow
> > was just simply weak compared to the same) performance weak. Good
> on
> > packed
> > (i.e. plowed or trampled) snow.
> >
> > Just in case it helps.
> >
> > LL - NY
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 14 Sep 2002 00:29:29 -0400 "ricematthews"
> <ricematthews at msn.com>
> > writes:
> > > Larry:
> > >
> > > As I made it through last winter without snows, I am at a
> similar
> > > crossroads
> > > for myself yet again.
> > >
> > > Also shopping at Tire Rack, my early favorite is the Good Year
> Ultra
> > > Grip
> > > Ice.  Very highly reviewed by the users on Tire Rack's site
> (albeit
> > > a
> > > relatively small number have reviewed them).  Other research I
> have
> > > been
> > > able to gather makes them look darn good too.  Where I live in
> > > southeastern
> > > PA, dry performance is a big necessity and the Dunlop Graspic's
> > > sound
> > > downright scary in the dry.  The Firestone Winterfires also
> sound
> > > decent for
> > > the price, but I think I may spring for the GY's.  What size
> tire is
> > > she
> > > looking for?
> > >
> > > -Mark
> > >
> > > *************************************
> > >
> > > Not to start a big thread here, but I'm trying to help my
> > > mother purchase a set of snows. Anyone have any
> > > experience with Dunlop Graspic DS-1's or Firestone
> > > Winterfires? My mom is driving a 2002 VW Passat
> > > GLX 4 Motion and she is not usually in a situation
> > > where she MUST be somewhere in the winter (she's
> > > retired). Her general winter situations are light snow
> > > and freezing rain, so I'm looking for good ice performance
> > > and packed snow rather than pure snow abilities.
> > >
> > > However, being that I have not been impressed with
> > > Michelin Artic Alpin snow performance on my late
> > > Dad's Subaru, (they stopped okay with non ABS
> > > brakes, and easily took off BUT, didn't turn worth
> > > a damn on fresh snow and felt unstable in the fresh
> > > stuff) I don't want to go that route.
> > >
> > > You may be able to tell that I'm shopping TireRack,
> > > (need snow rims) otherwise I'd actually just go get her
> > > Kelly Pacemarks. She is NOT a performance driver,
> > > and doesn't want to spend much, so don't even bother
> > > with Nokians and other Hi Perf snows.
> > >
> > > Thanks for any advice.
> > >
> > > LL - NY
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>



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