Front axle on 200

Wed Apr 2 18:48:42 EST 2003

Hey friends, I have a blown boot on the right front axle of my 1990 200.  The
manual makes it look like a pretty easy job (get it up on ramps to keep weight
on the wheel, pull one bolt on the outer end, six or so on the inner side and
remove axle) but I'm wary of "gotchas".  Memory tells me the bolts on the
tranny side of the axle are the triple-square type, so I'll need to get a
socket for that.

The big question - once that big bolt is removed from the outer end of the
axle, does the axle normally come out easily or does it take a puller or
pounding to back the axle out of the hub?

Also - does the exhaust pipe have to come down to provide clearance, or can I
work around it?  (Looks marginal, so I thought I'd ask.)

Anything else I need to know about this job?  Local shop wants $300,but I can
do it myself for a $100 rebuilt axle plus the outer bolt, so I'm not eager to
waste $200.

Thanks -

Al Powell
Fort Collins, CO
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>    1. 4000q sway bar on a CGT (David)
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>    3. good source for pure toluene? (Marc Swanson)
>    4. 4000q sway bar on a CGT (Alan Kramer)
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>    7. Re:Turbo rebuild! - I think i broke a piston ring, what now? :-(
> (Konstantin Bogach)
>    8. Re:good source for pure toluene? (Marc Swanson)
>    9. Re:4000q sway bar on a CGT (David)
>   10. re:good source for pure toluene? (auditude at cox.net)
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> Message: 1
> From: David <duandcc_forums at cox.net>
> To: quattro at audifans.com
> Subject: 4000q sway bar on a CGT
> Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 8:19:36 -0500
>
> Yesterday, I called Force5 and spoke to Chris. I was ordering a few replace=
> ment parts and at the last minute decided to go forward with getting a 4000=
> q front sway bar for my CGT. When I talked to Chris about using a late 4000=
> q front sway bar as an "upgrade" for the stock one, he seemed a bit confuse=
> d=2E He didn't know that the front sway bar on a 4000q is substantially thi=
> cker than on a CGT (or 4000S for that matter). So, my question to the list =
> is....am I high? Did I imagine that the 4000q front sway bar is thicker and=
>  is a bolt on upgrade for the CGT? Chris is usually VERY knowledgeable abou=
> t all things Audi, so if he didn't know, I figured it is likely that I migh=
> t be the one who was wrong...
>
> Oh, one last thing, has anybody found a way to reuse the stock front sway b=
> ar as a rear?
>
> TIA,
>
> Dave
> 1987 CGT Special Build
> SE Virginia
>
>
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> Message: 2
> From: "Carlo" <ImpalaSS at g2a.net>
> To: <quattro at audifans.com>
> Subject: Hatch supports for a 1990 CQ
> Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 08:23:11 -0600
>
> Where can I find hatch supports(gas shocks)  for a 1990 CQ.  The stealership
> wants $60+  for them and I need 2!  The local parts dealer books don't list
> it.  He is willing to work with me but could not find anything that was the
> correct length.  Let me know what you have made work with part #'s Thanks
>
>
> Carlo
> Impala at g2a.net
> 1990 CQ pearl
> Scandinavia, WI
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Subject: good source for pure toluene?
> From: Marc Swanson <mswanson at sonitrol.net>
> To: quattro at audifans.com
> Date: 02 Apr 2003 09:22:17 -0500
>
> After doing some reading on the subject I'm going to experiment with
> mixing toluene in my 4ktq.  Anyone bought this stuff before?  Suppliers?
>
> Thanks
>
>
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> Sonitrol Communications Corp.
> Hartford, CT
>
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> Message: 4
> From: "Alan Kramer" <ackramer at hotmail.com>
> To: duandcc_forums at cox.net
> Cc: quattro at audifans.com
> Subject: 4000q sway bar on a CGT
> Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 10:01:15 -0500
>
> Dave,
>
> Yes, the 4kq front sway is slightly thicker.
>
> It bolts up if your CGT bar has end links.  Use the 4kq end links. If you
> have the older style w/o end links (circa 81-82) you'll have to change
> control arms.
>
> Yes, you can use a front bar on the rear.  See the suspension section of my
> website below.
>
> -----------------------------------
> Alan Kramer
> http://www.geocities.com/audikramer
>
> '83 CGT 20vt
> '86 4kcsq
> '90 v8q
> -----------------------------------
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 10:03:46 -0500
> From: DGraber460 at aol.com
> To: mswanson at sonitrol.net
> Cc: quattro at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: good source for pure toluene?
>
> When I worked in the Pathology Lab (years ago) we would get ours from J.T. =
> Baker or Scientific Supply. This was many years ago, so I'm not sure they b=
> oth haven't been bought out or name changed etc. Any good chemical supply c=
> ompany should have it. You can even buy it at some hardwear/paint stores be=
> side the Turpentine, and paint thinner.
>
> Dennis
> Denver
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 08:06:07 -0700
> From: rizov_d at shaw.ca
> Subject: Re: molding adhesive
> To: Cade Carvell <ccarvell at nbsusa.com>
> Cc: quattro at audifans.com
>
> [ Converted text/html to text/plain ]
>
>
>
> Any PU based adhesive will work. Construction strength applied by caulking
> gun. Press and keep fixed moldings for 24 h (based on actual temperature).
>
> Hope you will not need to dismount moldings later.
>
>
>
> Dobby
>
> 86 4kq
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Cade Carvell <ccarvell at nbsusa.com>
>
> Date: Tuesday, April 1, 2003 8:12 pm
>
> Subject: molding adhesive
>
> > Hello,
> > I have several vehicles, VW and Audi, anyway the VW is exhibitng the
> > famous hanging molding problem (96 Jetta). What has everyone used
> > thatseems to work well to put the molding back on?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Cade Carvell
> > National Business Systems, Inc.
> > 2919 West Service Road
> > Eagan, MN 55121
> > Office: 651-994-4400
> >
> >
> >
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 10:27:13 -0500
> From: Konstantin Bogach <konstantin.bogach at morganstanley.com>
> To: quattro at audifans.com, gerard at poboxes.com
> Subject: Re: Turbo rebuild! - I think i broke a piston ring, what now? :-(
>
>
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> It is me whom Gerard send the kit, thaks to you again, Gerard.  It was my first
> turbo rebuild.
> Things to whatch for:
> - use correct torque on nut on the shaft (don't remember # but search archives
> for "kbogach turbo rebuld")
>   I got wrong torque from a document from official turbo place - snapped the
> shaft. I was lucky to have spare turbo from junk yard.
> - nut on rear housing are evry hard to get off and everyone I talked to snapped
> at least one stud.  It it snappes below surface - BIG PITA.
>   I don't know how to remove such piece.
>
> Every thing else is more or less straightforward.  But  I did it in basement on
> desk with big vise.   Gerard, do you have vise in your bathroom? :-)
> By the way,  I have perception that there are various models of K26 turbos out
> there - the kit
> I got from Gerard has bigger nut.  I was not a problem as I reused old one.
> I sent shaft to Turbo United in NH for balancing but just because I forgot to
> mark position of the nut and propeller wheel relative to each other and rear
> wheel (or to the whole
> shaft, one can say).
>
> Good luck,
> Konstantin
>
> >
> > From: Gerard <gerard at poboxes.com>
>
> >
> > > There is this up on e-bay right now:
> > >
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2409212971&categor
> y=6770
> > > Dunno, if it is a close enough match for the turbo, but it'd be an
> > > el-cheapo way out of this here sitiation/
> >
> > I might be able to help here. When I rebuilt my turbo I bought the kit
> > for around $50-$60. Don't know quite how it will work out given the
> > exchange rate, but I'll be willing to find out what the going price is
> > right now.
> >
> > I'm in South Africa and I think I sent a K26 repair kit to the USA maybe
> > 18 months ago and it was around $5 to ship.
> >
> > Let me know the numbers on the K26 and I can ask the local repair shop
> > if they have a kit for it and what it costs.
> >
> > I rebuilt my turbo on the bathroom floor. :) Just had the internal
> > components balanced before assembly, but it was quite straight forward.
> > Saved another $70 on assembly costs. A new turbine shaft was around $120
> > at the time, so that was the killer bit.
> >
> > Anyway, let me know if you are interested and I will do some homework
> > inbetween hunting for a new job.
> >
> > G.
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>
>
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> Message: 8
> Subject: Re: good source for pure toluene?
> From: Marc Swanson <mswanson at sonitrol.net>
> To: DGraber460 at aol.com
> Cc: quattro at audifans.com
> Date: 02 Apr 2003 10:36:36 -0500
>
> > When I worked in the Pathology Lab (years ago) we would get ours from J.T=
> . Baker or Scientific Supply. This was many years ago, so I'm not sure they=
>  both haven't been bought out or name changed etc. Any good chemical supply=
>  company should have it. You can even buy it at some hardwear/paint stores =
> beside the Turpentine, and paint thinner.
>
>
> Interesting.  I'll have to price it from the local stores first to save
> potential HAZMAT shipping charges and such..  A few others have replied
> privately with commercial bulk suppliers that I will also price and
> report back.
>
> Thanks for the great info!
>
> --
> ----------------------------------
> Marc Swanson, Software Engineer
> Sonitrol Communications Corp.
> Hartford, CT
>
> Email: mswanson at sonitrol.net
> Phone: (860) 616-7036
> Pager: (860) 948-6713
>  Cell: (603) 512-1267
>   Fax: (860) 616-7589
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> Message: 9
> From: David <duandcc_forums at cox.net>
> To: "Alan Kramer" <ackramer at hotmail.com>
> Cc: quattro at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: 4000q sway bar on a CGT
> Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 10:43:08 -0500
>
> Can you elaborate on what it takes to do this? Your site makes metion of so=
> me parts from Summit Racing, but doesn't really say what it took to get it =
> all put together. Either that or I'm looking in the wrong place. Also, how =
> much of a difference did the 4Kq sway bar up fron and the stock bar at the =
> rear make when compared to stock? I'm running Boge Turbos at all corners on=
>  stock springs...
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dave
> 1987 CGT
> >
> > From: "Alan Kramer" <ackramer at hotmail.com>
> > Date: 2003/04/02 Wed AM 10:01:15 EST
> > To: duandcc_forums at cox.net
> > CC: quattro at audifans.com
> > Subject: 4000q sway bar on a CGT
> >
> > Dave,
> >
> > Yes, the 4kq front sway is slightly thicker.
> >
> > It bolts up if your CGT bar has end links.  Use the 4kq end links. If you
> > have the older style w/o end links (circa 81-82) you'll have to change
> > control arms.
> >
> > Yes, you can use a front bar on the rear.  See the suspension section of =
> my
> > website below.
> >
> > -----------------------------------
> > Alan Kramer
> > http://www.geocities.com/audikramer
> >
> > '83 CGT 20vt
> > '86 4kcsq
> > '90 v8q
> > -----------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 10
> From: <auditude at cox.net>
> To: quattro at audifans.com, mswanson at sonitrol.net
> Subject: re: good source for pure toluene?
> Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 11:48:32 -0500
>
> Yeah, I find that stuff pretty darn interesting too.
>
> I bought a couple gallons, but never used them.  I have no EGT or knock lig=
> ht, so I haven't experimented yet.  Not to mention the 5kcstq is down await=
> ing manifold stud drilling and other stuff.  Wax and wane.
>
> Anyhow, I got my toluene from Sherwin Williams paint store.  I think a plac=
> e like that might be your best bet for consumer quantities.  You can set it=
>  up for larger purchases as well.  I'm not sure at what point they or someo=
> ne would want to know the name of your painting company.
>
> I want to say I paid like $9 each or so for it, but I could be wrong.  From=
>  what I can tell it is pure.
>
> Be careful, and report your results.  Some have supposedly tried it and got=
>  either bad results or none, so they are set against it.  My opinion is tha=
> t like anything else it won't be perfect the first time around, and it take=
> s some refinement (of the experiment conditions) to find the best results.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Ken
>
> Marc Swanson mswanson at sonitrol.net
>
> After doing some reading on the subject I'm going to experiment with
> mixing toluene in my 4ktq.  Anyone bought this stuff before?  Suppliers?
>
>
>
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