chipping an ng engine

[Alan Pritchard]

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Aha!! Right, so it could override the ecu's inbuilt safetys, nasty, I don't
very much like the sound of that!!!! I did wonder if advancing the timing
would achieve similar results, but im sure Javad mentioned that the ecu
would just ignore that anyway. I can't believe unscrupulous people out there
can do that, I knew it was cheap, but figured it would just be a clone! It
does also say NOT TUV approved........... I guess the rule is you get
nothing for free (or very cheap).

Best Regards,
Alan Pritchard
Network Administrator

Seaeye Marine Ltd.

Tel.  01329 289000
Fax. 01329 289001
www.seaeye.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Mihnea Cotet [mailto:c_mihnea at yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 11:45 AM
To: Alan Pritchard; 'mik at info.fundp.ac.be'; Quattro List (E-mail)
Subject: RE: chipping an ng engine

Well, if you're lucky, maybe the ECU will still use
the knock sensor but I can't commit as I don't know
what's programmed inside...

The 20vt Ebay chips instead, and it's 200% sure, don't
use the knock sensor anymore, and guess what happens
when you have inaudible knock for 30 seconds at 250 on
the Autobahn? The block throws a rod! Yeah right, this
happened to a friend of mine a few weeks ago...

If you advance the timing manually you'll get the same
effect I think and it won't cost you 35 Euro :-)


HTH,


Mihnea


--- Alan Pritchard <apritchard at seaeye.com> wrote:
> Thanks, I needed a slap to reality!! I have seen
> reputable manufacturers
> offering 10hp, and other "unknowns" offering around
> 18hp. 10 I believe, 18 I
> suppose is possible with good fuel. So, if I were to
> buy one of these, I
> guess it only advances timing, would it not protect
> the car via the knock
> sensor?
>
> Best Regards,
> Alan Pritchard
> Network Administrator
>
> Seaeye Marine Ltd.
>
> Tel.  01329 289000
> Fax. 01329 289001
> www.seaeye.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mihnea Cotet [mailto:c_mihnea at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 11:33 AM
> To: Alan Pritchard; Quattro List (E-mail)
> Subject: Re: chipping an ng engine
>
> Alan,
>
>
> For your information, the Ebay chips seem to be very
> tempting, especially as they are VERY cheap, dirt
> cheap actually. The only problem is that no one
> knows
> if you buy a stock chip or something that's been
> programmed by someone who wanted you to destroy your
> engine. The 20v turbo Ebay chips are amongst the
> most
> dangerous chips around, they cost nothing (60-70
> Euro
> for the most expensive) but repair due to using
> those
> chips is MUCH MUCH more expensive. I know
> personnally
> 5 people who've had engine damage with those chips
> and
> another 10 or 11 people who had to replace turbos
> (myself included) because of those chips.
>
> Now I have no first hand experience with the 2.3l
> chips, but the consensus on German forums is that
> the
> effect ranges from unnoticeable to bad (poor idle,
> worse gas mileage). Another thing is that the one
> who
> claims 20 HP (!!!) and 30 Nm (!!!!!!!) on a 2.3l 10v
> NA engine is just a stupid damn*ss b*stard MoFo
> because it's simply impossible to gain as many HP on
> a
> NA engine (especially a KE-Jetronic engine) only
> with
> a chip.
>
> My advice is keep your money, those 25 Euro (+10
> shipping if it's from Germany) will be better spent
> on
> some fuel for your car.
>
>
> HTH,
>
> Mihnea
> --- Alan Pritchard <apritchard at seaeye.com> wrote:
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> > Just found on ebay a chip for my 90q (ng engine)
> > claiming 20ps and 30 newton
> > metres, I would not normally be interested but it
> > can be had for 25 euros,
> > therefore I am very tempted.  Can anyone tell me
> any
> > pro's and con's, or can
> > any lister offer me a similar chip? This is to
> tide
> > me over until my turbo
> > conversion is ready to go!!
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Alan Pritchard
> > Network Administrator
> >
> > Seaeye Marine Ltd.
> >
> > Tel.  01329 289000
> > Fax. 01329 289001
> > www.seaeye.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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