LISTER NEEDs HELP
balakrishnan3 at comcast.net
balakrishnan3 at comcast.net
Sat Aug 9 01:40:58 EDT 2003
This is a desperate plea for help. I drove my 1990 200 quattro wagon from
Chicago to Putney, VT, arriving this evening. I left on Friday evening, spent
the night in Erie PA, and drove on today from there to Putney VT (outside
Brattleboro).
The wagon was fitted with a Scott Mockry modified ECU and a 1.8 bar waste gate
spring on Friday morning (yesterday). The car ran just fine all day yesterday
when we drove from Chicago to Erie PA, and again this morning, easily reaching
1.8 bar whenever I needed it. However, after we had driven about 100 miles
this morning, the car suddenly started to act strange. I had the car on cruise
control in 5th gear ging about 75 mph, and as I reached a hill, the car began
to sputter, almost like it was not able to generate enough power in the 5th
gear to get up the hill. I switched the display from MPG to boost and it was
barely 1.2 bar, and the engine was sputtering. From then on to reaching my
sister's home in Putney VT, I have had to keep the car below 1.2 bar by using
gears. At 1.2 bar it starts to hesitate, and lose power. Driving from Albany
to Bennington and then Brattleboro, I had to go through local traffic and I
found that the engine also had difficulty running, frequently stalling when I
engaged the clutch to shift gears, or at traffic lights. It stalled and would
not start when I came out of the Putney exit from I-91. It started eventually,
and I managed to drive it my sister's home. I tried starting it afer it had
cooled a bit, and it did, but runs real rough.
I do not know any one in this area that I can take the car to for diagnosing
the problem and fixing it. We have rooms booked (cannoy be cancelled) in
Montreal for Saturday - Monday nights. We originally planned to take the Audi,
but will use my sister's Subie instead. I would like to leave the Audi with
someone who is knowledegeable tomorrow itself, and have it fixed so that I can
drive it back to Chicago at the end of next week.
Can someone please help with diagnosig the problem from the symptoms ? I
thought that both the boost problem and the stalling problems might be due to a
leak in the system after the turbo discharge.
I stopped in Albany and bought a Michelin Man hose, suspecting that there might
be a leak from it. I will have the new hose installed tomorrow morning. I
have also visually inspected the intercooler, and it looks fine. But just in
case,I have bought a strap to tie around it, and will install that too
tomorrow. I will have to also check the hose from the turbo to the intercooler
to see if it is busted. The dealer in Albany from whom I bought the Michelin
man hose did not have this hose in stock.
Is there a local dealer or an ace Audi mechanic that you would recommend ? I
need the reference desperately so that I can get the car fixed and drive it
back. Thanks in advance for your help.
Chander
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> 3. Re:RE:evil fram again... (Tom Nas)
> 4. Re:[V8] Tire ratings chart idea (DieMarthaDie at aol.com)
> 5. Re:[V8] Tire ratings chart idea (DieMarthaDie at aol.com)
> 6. new antifreeze (Todd Young)
> 7. Re:Condoms for sway bar end link bushings (Huw Powell)
> 8. Oily filters (Al Powell)
> 9. AC system Sealing Washers (Perry, Christoper (EDS))
> 10. Re:Compression figures (Richard J Lebens)
> 11. homemade air/fuel gauge... (luke)
> 12. Re:homemade air/fuel gauge... (Ti Kan)
> 13. Re:homemade air/fuel gauge... (Brady Moffatt)
> 14. Re:S1 in Grays Harobor? (Todd Phenneger)
> 15. Re:homemade air/fuel gauge... (JShadzi at aol.com)
> 16. Re:After massive coolant leak, terrible idle,
> black smoke. still in trouble (Martin Pot)
> 17. anyone ever heard of/dealt with 1010tires.com (Franco Barber)
> 18. Re:anyone ever heard of/dealt with 1010tires.com (Brady Moffatt)
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> Message: 1
> From: "no1of consequence" <iin10ded at hotmail.com>
> To: quattro at audifans.com
> Subject: is pentosin coolant silicate-free?
> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 16:07:29 +0000
>
> i was thinking of using it in anothe vehicle that requires silicate free
> coolant. pentosin says its phosphate and amine free, but anyone know if its
> silicate free?
>
> thanks,
> jim
>
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> Message: 2
> From: "Casting Fool" <jester at cfnson.com>
> To: "Audi List" <quattro at audifans.com>
> Subject: Re: Condoms for sway bar end link bushings
> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 12:07:59 -0400
> Organization: Casting Fool & Son
>
> From: <Jpinkowish at aol.com>
> > Anybody know of a supplier for something like a mini-CV joint bootie or
> rubber accordian bellow small enough to fit over the end link bushes?
>
> Try a local hobby shop for some of the rubber boots that are used in radio
> control aircraft and cars.
>
> TTFN - Mike Jackson
> Casting Fool & Son
> Augusta, GA USA
> http://www.cfnson.com
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 18:09:24 +0200
> To: quattro at audifans.com
> From: Tom Nas <tnas at euronet.nl>
> Subject: Re: RE:evil fram again...
> Cc: "Dave Arkle" <darkle at expertfriend.com>
>
> "Dave Arkle" <darkle at expertfriend.com> wrote:
>
> >When I bought my last car, it had a Mobile 1 filter on it and the mileage
> >sticker on the windshield indicated that it had been in place for approx.
> >2700 miles. When I replaced it, it wasn't collapsed, and appeared to be in
> >proper functioning condition.
>
> (ashamed) when I bought my $60 '87 Audi 80 three years ago, it had a FRAM
> filter. Also, service stickers seemed to indicate that it had received its
> last service sometime in '95. I just topped up the oil (it used up a fair
> amount, smoked nicely). The lifters were really quiet though and I decided
> that I had enogh to do on my other cars. The Fram filter stayed in place
> and it was still there when I drove it to the scrapyard with a dead
> transmission (shoulda watched THAT oil level instead) earlier this year.
>
> My 90q gets an oil change with the correct filter very often, though... as
> does my '77 80LS. My '90 80 is about due for an oil change... as well as
> for a new rocker cover gasket and fuel pump.
>
> Tom
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 12:35:53 -0400
> From: DieMarthaDie at aol.com
> To: skramer at mac.com, v8 at audifans.com, quattro at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: [V8] Tire ratings chart idea
>
> In a message dated 8/7/2003 2:35:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, skramer at mac.c=
> om writes:
>
> >
> > This is fantastic. I must have been hitting the delete key
> > on most of the
> > posts. How long has this Knowledge Base Site been up ?
> >
> > Steve Kramer
> > 1990 V8q
>
> about 3 seconds. I got sick of trying to follow all the posts about tires =
> and thought we should have one for ALL of us to post about ALL the brands..=
> . instead of wondering about whether the guy at Tire Rack had his tires on =
> a 911 or an H2.
>
> If everyone likes it we can migrate it from the sandbox to its own little p=
> lace... and everyone can add away!
>
> John
> 90 V8Q
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 12:35:55 -0400
> From: DieMarthaDie at aol.com
> To: skramer at mac.com, v8 at audifans.com, quattro at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: [V8] Tire ratings chart idea
>
> In a message dated 8/7/2003 2:35:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, skramer at mac.c=
> om writes:
>
> >
> > This is fantastic. I must have been hitting the delete key
> > on most of the
> > posts. How long has this Knowledge Base Site been up ?
> >
> > Steve Kramer
> > 1990 V8q
>
> about 3 seconds. I got sick of trying to follow all the posts about tires =
> and thought we should have one for ALL of us to post about ALL the brands..=
> . instead of wondering about whether the guy at Tire Rack had his tires on =
> a 911 or an H2.
>
> If everyone likes it we can migrate it from the sandbox to its own little p=
> lace... and everyone can add away!
>
> John
> 90 V8Q
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 12:12:58 -0500
> From: Todd Young <auditodd at comcast.net>
> To: Quattro List <quattro at audifans.com>
> Subject: new antifreeze
>
> I'm not trying to start a debate, just passing on information about a
> "new" antifreeze offered by Zerex (which by the way is a division of
> Valvoline).
>
> Zerex G-05 is a low-silicate, low-pH, phosphate-free, pre-charged
> formula that is designed to protect automotive and diesel engines from
> rust and corrosion. Zerex G05 is approved by Ford and by
> Daimler-Chrysler for worldwide applications including all MTU and
> Mercedes engines.
>
> http://www.valvoline.com/pages/products/product_detail.asp?product=10
> --
> Todd Young
> 7079 Dawn Ave. E.
> Inver Grove Heights, MN 55076
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 13:36:11 -0400
> From: Huw Powell <audi at humanspeakers.com>
> Reply-To: audi at humanspeakers.com
> To: Jpinkowish at aol.com
> Cc: quattro at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: Condoms for sway bar end link bushings
>
> > I'm going to R/R all the sway bar bushings on the '85 4kq.
> > The bar end link bushings are completely exposed to salt, sand and other
> > weather schmutz. It occurred to me that all this stuff contributes greatly to
> > wearing out the bushes.
> >
> > So....I thought about protecting them with sections of bicycle tire inner
> > tubes secured with tie wraps.
> >
> > Anybody know of a supplier for something like a mini-CV joint bootie or
> > rubber accordian bellow small enough to fit over the end link bushes?
>
> Can you get ball joint boots? They ought to be about the right size.
>
> --
> Huw Powell
>
> http://www.humanspeakers.com/audi
>
> http://www.humanthoughts.org/
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Reply-To: <apowell at gocougs.wsu.edu>
> From: "Al Powell" <apowell at gocougs.wsu.edu>
> To: <quattro at audifans.com>
> Subject: Oily filters
> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 11:55:15 -0600
>
> The current oil filter thread has gone on long enough that I'm moved to join
> it.
>
> I've used Amsoil filters (and their synthetic oil and lubes) in my cars
> since 1977. Open one of their filters up and you'll see they put anything
> else to shame. Each has a bypass valve and an anti-drainback valve. The
> filtration material is much more substantial than any conventional filter.
> Here's part of the website blurb: "Full flow design for extended drain
> intervals and severe service. Contains a high-tech blended filtration media
> composed of cellulose, synthetic and glass fibers."
>
> Info available...
>
> For an index of Amsoil's filter products...
> http://www.amsoil.com/products/oil_airfilters/index.htm
>
> For oil filter info...
> http://www.amsoil.com/products/sdf.html
>
>
> This is not intended to be an ad for their filters, but I have found them to
> be excellent. You can get them direct from the company website, so having a
> local dealer isn't any problem at all.
>
> ************************
> Al Powell
> Fort Collins, CO
> apowell at gocougs.wsu.edu
> ************************
>
>
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> Message: 9
> From: "Perry, Christoper (EDS)" <chris.perry at weyerhaeuser.com>
> To: 'Quattro' <quattro at audifans.com>
> Subject: AC system Sealing Washers
> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 10:58:15 -0700
>
> Hey Gang,
> I was wanting to do some AC work and I had thought that all the fittings
> were sealed by O-rings. The FA lists 803 260 749 C Sealing Washer for my 89
> 90q. Are these actually copper or aluminum crush washers?
>
> Thanks,
> Chris Perry
> Network Design & Engineering
> EDS at Weyerhaeuser
> chris.perry at weyerhaeuser.com
> (253) 924-3857
> "There are 10 kinds of people, those that understand binary and those that
> don't"
>
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 11:00:55 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Richard J Lebens <rick-l at rocketmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Compression figures
> To: quattro at audifans.com
>
> Just for reference -- When I got a 60 reading on my 20 valve it was due
> to a running rich condition, once from a bad fuel injector and once due
> to the distributor filling with oil. After I fixed the rich condition
> the compression healed itself. I suspect this was due to carbon/slime
> etc. on the valve seat.
>
>
> --- Marc Sims <avarlinqui at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Helo all
> >
> > Just done a cylinder compression test on my 80q V6 12v and wondered
> > where I
> > could find the official figures for this engine, I've gone and
> > forgoten
> > where the new 12v site is and cannot find any other info on the lists
> > (not
> > that I was able to do a thorough search).
> >
> > Anyone got these figures, my readings were (looking at engine from
> > front)
> >
> > left bank Front, 140. Middle,145. Rear, 150.
> > Right bank front, 150. Middle, 150. Rear, 60.
> >
> > I think it's cylinder 6 thats got the low figure and we've worked out
> > that
> > it's a valve problem, however I would like to know the official
> > specs.
> >
> > Can anyone help?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Marc S
> >
> > 93 80q 2.6 12v 140k miles
> >
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> Message: 11
> From: "luke" <maytagasm at sympatico.ca>
> To: <quattro at audifans.com>
> Subject: homemade air/fuel gauge...
> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 14:40:26 -0400
>
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> anyone know much about o2 sensors?
> especially the oem bosch 3 wire unit in an mc?
> i plan on making my own air/fuel gauge with a
> multimeter...
> just wondering what wires read what
> and what reading the give off rich/stoich etc...
>
> luke
> 90tq
> www.audi-quattro.org/~lukes90tq/
> --
>
>
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> Message: 12
> From: Ti Kan <ti at amb.org>
> Subject: Re: homemade air/fuel gauge...
> To: maytagasm at sympatico.ca (luke)
> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 12:25:30 -0700 (PDT)
> Cc: quattro at audifans.com
>
> luke writes:
> > anyone know much about o2 sensors?
> > especially the oem bosch 3 wire unit in an mc?
> > i plan on making my own air/fuel gauge with a
> > multimeter...
> > just wondering what wires read what
> > and what reading the give off rich/stoich etc...
>
> The white wires are for the heating element. The black wire is
> the output of the sensor. The ground is the engine block.
> Having said that, using a multimeter as a fuel/air gauge during
> closed loop operation is going to be useless. The signal varies
> much too fast for most meters to register a correct reading.
>
> -Ti
> 2003 A4 1.8T multitronic
> 2001 S4 biturbo 6-sp
> 1984 5000S turbo
> 1980 4000 2.0 5-sp
> --
> /// Ti Kan Vorsprung durch Technik
> /// AMB Laboratories, Sunnyvale, CA. USA
> /// ti at amb.org
> ////// http://www.amb.org/ti/
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> Message: 13
> From: "Brady Moffatt" <bradym at sympatico.ca>
> To: "Ti Kan" <ti at amb.org>, "luke" <maytagasm at sympatico.ca>
> Cc: <quattro at audifans.com>
> Subject: Re: homemade air/fuel gauge...
> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 15:50:20 -0400
>
> Hi Luke,
>
> http://www.martelmeters.com/products.php?cat=1&action=detail&id=57 is an LCD
> analog voltmeter with a 0-1VDC range. It's small, and perfect for a DIY O2
> voltage meter. Since it has 9 positions, the fluctuations aren't that high.
> A friend of mine is using one. Only problem is there is no lighting on the
> unit. 58$CDN in your hands.
>
> Cheers,
> Brady Moffatt
> Montreal, Quebec, Canada
> 83 UrQuattro with 54,000 miles
> 86 4ksq with 311,000km
> 86 4ksq parts car
> 72 Datsun 240Z with 180,000 miles
> in middle stages of quattrosis accumulatus
>
>
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> Message: 14
> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 13:01:30 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Todd Phenneger <tquattroguy at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: S1 in Grays Harobor?
> To: luke <maytagasm at sympatico.ca>, quattro at audifans.com
>
> Luke,
> Read the two messages again. You just confirmed what I said
> as being "correct". I said the "sport quattro" had the same
> rake as the 4000, "otherwise known as the 1984 Audi 80. "same
> car". YOur correct about the glare, but that glare was first
> noted on the ur-quattro's, not just the early works Sport
> Quattros. Hence the change to the upright windshield. I made
> no mention of conversions, and in my opinion, the conversion
> look VERY funny with the coupe windshield. IF your reply was in
> regards to my comment about the steeper windshield being
> "necessary", I would agree with your statement and I used a poor
> choice of words, as it isn't necessary, it just looks funny with
> the couple windshield and it was "necessary" for the rally
> drivers due to the glare. :-)
> Anyhow, in the later pics that Todd ???? posted, we can see
> that indeed, as you say, the conversion done on that wannabee S1
> includes the 4k glass and shorter doors. Very nice conversion,
> Is it really an aditional 10,000 to do that. I cant see
> replacing a roof and pillars beign THAT expensive, body shops do
> it all the time in Roll Overs. Either way, Thats the proper way
> to do it. Glad it was done right.
> l8r
> Todd "off to play with the AAN 20vt that showed up in my
> Garage yesterday!!!" YAY!!!
>
> --- luke <maytagasm at sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> > --
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > >The Sport quattro has the same windshield rake as a 4000. It
> > >has the steeper windshield, a necessity due to the short
> > >wheelbase.
> >
> > incorrect. the first prototypes had the normal
> > windshield but works rally drivers found there to be
> > way too much glare.
> > so the factory replaced it with the unit
> > from the 1984 audi 80
> > proof that the normal one fits?
> > www.dialynx.co.uk
> > when you get the normal sport q conversion
> > package it doesnt include windsheild...
> > comes with the stock one...
> > except keith murray fitted the 80 windshield
> > to HIS car to make it authentic...
> > its an extra $10-20 000 at least i think...
> >
> > luke
> > 90tq
> > www.audi-quattro.org/~lukes90tq/
> > --
> >
>
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> Message: 15
> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 16:00:51 -0400
> From: JShadzi at aol.com
> To: ti at amb.org (Ti Kan), maytagasm at sympatico.ca (luke)
> Cc: quattro at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: homemade air/fuel gauge...
>
> Ti, I agree, an O2 gauge is a very good tuning device, not as accurate as s=
> ay a WB sensor, but any standard O2 will give you a very accurate reference=
> to Stoich. Typically I can get a/f ratio on an 034efi unit to within 5% o=
> f ideal using a standard O2, then fine tune it up with a WB, especially WOT=
> where 12:1 to 13:1 mixtures are not as accurate with a standard O2.
>
> Luke, Ti is right, you can get a nice O2 gauge from Summit for under $30, w=
> hy use a multimeter? Multimeters don't react quickly enough to the rapidly=
> changing voltage signal, its just not going to give you any useful informa=
> tion, even if its free.
>
> HTH,
> Javad
> >
> >The white wires are for the heating element. =A0The black wire is
> >the output of the sensor. =A0The ground is the engine block.
> >Having said that, using a multimeter as a fuel/air gauge during
> >closed loop operation is going to be useless. =A0The signal varies
> >much too fast for most meters to register a correct reading.
> >
> >-Ti
> >2003 A4 1.8T multitronic
> >2001 S4 biturbo 6-sp
> >1984 5000S turbo
> >1980 4000 2.0 5-sp
> >--
> > =A0 =A0/// =A0Ti Kan =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Vorsprung durch Techn=
> ik
> > =A0 /// =A0 AMB Laboratories, Sunnyvale, CA. USA
> > =A0/// =A0 =A0ti at amb.org
> > ////// =A0http://www.amb.org/ti/
> >///
> >
> >
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> Message: 16
> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 15:53:29 -0500
> From: Martin Pot <paulnet at direcway.com>
> Subject: Re: After massive coolant leak, terrible idle,
> black smoke. still in trouble
> To: quattro at audifans.com
>
> Hi Guys.
> I am still at a loss here with the 2CTQA 20v 3b engine, and this has been
> the longest period of time I had an Audi down in 10 years, and it has become
> embarrsing.. I have measured the RPM sensor and ignition sensor per Bently
> and they seem to check out good.
> I have finally managed to pull the codes but I am getting 4444 with my
> blinking light, while the car is struggling to keep alive. I did not take it
> for a drive before I did the codes, may be that is the problem, but I am
> afraid to drive the car as it is. When it idles it sounds like vvroomm,
> vvroomm, vvroomm with a slight pause in between the vvroomm's, and very near
> death only to struggle back up to a burst of 900 RPM. It is also producing
> nasty black smoke, but gets less when I rev the engine but still keeps on
> smoking.
> It seems it is getting way too much fuel.
> If the fuel pressure regulator fails would this be the result?
> It is driving me nuts not to be able to find the problem.
>
> Thanks, Martin.
>
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 17
> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 17:01:38 -0400
> From: Franco Barber <feb at febsun.cmhnet.org>
> To: quattro at audifans.com
> Subject: anyone ever heard of/dealt with 1010tires.com
>
> Anyone ever hear of or dealt with 1010tires.com?
>
> Are they reliable? E.g. If they say they have a certain tire for sale,
> what's the chances they really have it?
>
> Thanks,
> Franco
>
>
> --
> Franco Barber feb at febsun.cmhnet.org
> 95 A6Q w/Gamma CD mit RDS! Columbus, Ohio USA
> 95 A6Q 5spd w/HCB-30 bluetooth car kit!
>
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>
> Message: 18
> From: "Brady Moffatt" <bradym at sympatico.ca>
> To: "Franco Barber" <feb at febsun.cmhnet.org>, <quattro at audifans.com>
> Subject: Re: anyone ever heard of/dealt with 1010tires.com
> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 17:47:05 -0400
>
> A friend of mine bought from them Dunlop D60A2, IINM. Fast service, good
> price.
>
> No clue as to their inventory policy.
>
> Cheers,
> Brady Moffatt
> Montreal, Quebec, Canada
> 83 UrQuattro with 54,000 miles
> 86 4ksq with 311,000km
> 86 4ksq parts car
> 72 Datsun 240Z with 180,000 miles
> in middle stages of quattrosis accumulatus
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Franco Barber" <feb at febsun.cmhnet.org>
>
> > Anyone ever hear of or dealt with 1010tires.com?
> >
> > Are they reliable? E.g. If they say they have a certain tire for sale,
> > what's the chances they really have it?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Franco
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