Getting keys made without a dupe

[superba1st]

Hi Bruce,

Funny you would ask;  if I told you, I'd have to rub you out.  More
seriously, the locksmiths are supposed to guard that information.  I don't
know to be truthful.  When they've unlocked rental cars, American made, they
look somewhere and get the key code, but I was too upset with being locked
out, etc. to notice.

Technology and security issues have caused drastic changes in getting the
codes.  You have to bet that the bad guys keep up with where they're
published.  Some listers have mentioned having to show positive ID when
getting a key code from a VIN;  that would be from a chart or database, a
closely guarded one that's not in the Family Album.

Maybe someone else on the list can shed some light on this.  The people who
know probably won't say.

Cheers!

Jim Jordan



>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: Henderson, Bruce [mailto:BHenderson at accuridecorp.com]
>  Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 4:23 AM
>  To: superba1st
>  Subject: RE: Getting keys made without a dupe
>
>
>  Silly question, I know, but where do you find the code???
>
>  J. Bruce Henderson
>  EHS Operations
>  P - 812.962.5065
>  F - 812.962.5413
>  C - 812.499.5802
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>  From: 	superba1st [mailto:superba1st at comcast.net]
>  Sent:	Wednesday, August 20, 2003 5:27 PM
>  To:	Ti Kan
>  Cc:	quattro at audifans.com
>  Subject:	RE: Getting keys made without a dupe
>
>  Hi Ti,
>
>  Locksmiths have charts that give them key cutting instructions when they
>  don't have a key to copy.  I've never had one made for a German
>  car, and the
>  keys are different in that they use wafers with holes in them.  However,
>  they commonly do cut keys without a key to duplicate.  I'm not
>  talking about
>  what you see in Home Depot or OSH;  I'm talking a real
>  locksmith.  I've had
>  them cut keys for me from codes on the cars and a UHaul truck without the
>  key to dupe.  The UHaul truck had one key for the door and one for the
>  ignition, and the agency in San Mateo gave me only the ignition
>  key.  I was
>  in South San Jose with a loaded truck.
>
>  HST, I obviously don't know if key codes have been restricted in our ever
>  security conscious society or not.  I suspect that the knowledge
>  that this
>  can be done is not widely publicized;  however, guess who knows it can be
>  done?
>
>  Cheers!
>
>  Jim Jordan
>
>
>
>  >  -----Original Message-----
>  >  From: Ti Kan [mailto:ti at amb.org]
>  >  Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:57 PM
>  >  To: superba1st
>  >  Cc: quattro at audifans.com
>  >  Subject: Re: Getting keys made
>  >
>  >
>  >  superba1st writes:
>  >  > I'm no expert, but I don't think a potential thief or owner
>  >  has to go to an
>  >  > Audi dealer.  All she has to do is find a locksmith with the
>  >  proper blanks,
>  >  > ...
>  >
>  >  How is a regular locksmith going to be able to cut you a key based on
>  >  nothing?  If you already had a key to copy from, then sure, they could
>  >  do that, but a car thief isn't going to have one.
>  >
>  >  -Ti
>  >  2003 A4 1.8T multitronic
>  >  2001 S4 biturbo 6-sp
>  >  1984 5000S turbo
>  >  1980 4000 2.0 5-sp
>  >  --
>  >      ///  Ti Kan                Vorsprung durch Technik
>  >     ///   AMB Laboratories, Sunnyvale, CA. USA
>  >    ///    ti at amb.org
>  >   //////  http://www.amb.org/ti/
>  >  ///
>  >
>
>
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