[LAC] Rally history facts?

passat TS passat_ts at hotmail.com
Fri Jan 17 19:52:18 EST 2003


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Luke,

I heard from the Malcolm Wilson, himself, the guy who builds the Ford WRC's
cars, that today's times are faster than the Group B.

The presented reasons are that Group B cars had more power, but could not
transfer it to the ground as good as today's WRC cars and other benefits of
new technologies.

An example is the hydraulic shifting. The times from Grunholm without the
paddle shift were almost a second per mile slower in a stage in Australia.

I think that you can dig the times and compare, if you are settling some $$$,
otherwise let the other guy come up with the times.

However, there will be some stage times faster with the group B cars, when
turns were not important, like in the Safari rally, where some stages go miles
and miles without a significant turns. ("next intruction 4 miles...").

Later,

Carlos.
>From: lrickert at covad.net
>Reply-To: rickert at whitties.org
>To: quattro at audifans.com
>Subject: [LAC] Rally history facts?
>Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:05:10 -0800
>
>I am having a discussion with a friend of mine about group B rally cars and
the
>modern WRC versions. I don't want to start any arguments on the list, I just
>would like to find some stage times from the mid 80's that can be compared to
>the same stages in modern cars. Our discussion is basically about the merits
of
>mid-engine conversions for rally cars. I know the group B cars were lighter
and
>high powered, so in a straight line or fast special stage they were faster,
but
>it is my understanding that overall the modern WRC cars are faster due to
their
>advanced technology. The reduced power might actually make them better
handling
>and certainly makes them safer. The modern cars are probably less reliable
with
>all their electronic silliness and transmission problems but that isn't the
>question here.
>
>Thanks and please respond off list
>
>Luke

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