time to move on
Richard Hoffman
billzcat1 at hotmail.com
Wed Mar 19 02:45:05 EST 2003
I'll have to admit: I have always been envious of your stable of rare Audis
and I'll have to say....I am still envious of your stable!
Congrats on the purchase of the S8, truly an amazing car from what I hear!
Richard
1990 CQ 216k
1970 100LS 2-dr 46k
>From: "Dave.Eaton" <Dave.Eaton at clear.net.nz>
>Reply-To: Dave.Eaton at clear.net.nz
>To: 'RS2 list' <RS2list at yahoogroups.com>, 'ur-q' <urq at audifans.com>
>CC: 'Quattro List' <quattro at audifans.com>
>Subject: time to move on
>Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 22:25:19 +1200
>
>i now no longer own a 1990 ur-quattro 20v or a 1995 rs2 avant. i have done
>a deal which trades both cars against a september 2001 s8 with 23k km on
>the
>clock. the deal values both my cars as the same as the s8, and is with the
>audi dealership where i have, over the years, now purchased 5 cars (s2,
>ur-quattro, rs2, a3, and now s8). the s8 comes with 18 months left of the
>factory service cover & warranty.
>
>the trade values the ur-quattro at significantly more than i paid for it,
>and allows me the right of veto over the new owners - i don=92t want some
>snotty nosed kid with a rich dad to purchase it. i have no such stipulation
>on the rs2. i will assist the dealer in marketing the ur-quattro, which
>will
>be displayed in the showroom alongside all the new models.. the ur-quattro
>has appreciated roughly 30% in my ownership (7 years), while the rs2 has
>depreciated 40% in the same time (roughly 8% pa).
>
>i have spent a lot of seat time in both an s6 and an s8, and have decided
>that the s8 is a better drivers car than the s6. the s8 is far better than
>i
>had imagined (and as a drivers car, imo, better than the rs6). there is
>less
>understeer than in the rs2, less pitch and roll as well. the brakes are
>superb, as you'd expect from 996-derived brembos, and the engine is a
>peach.
>the s6 is a more modern car, which has held its value better, but it is
>very
>hard not to be impressed with the technology available in the s8. it is
>also
>much rarer than the s6, and i like that someone else has funded the 18
>month, 40% depreciation for me. the figure with the s6 is more like 20%,
>and
>the cars are a year older.
>
>the deal also reflects that, for me at least, the time has come to move on
>into newer forms of audi ownership - the reality was that i was barely
>using
>the ur-quattro, and was unlikely to change this as we await the birth of
>child #2. moving into the city 14 months ago has also changed the equation
>of ur-quattro ownership. the reality is that, over the last 12 months, i
>have completed 1700kms with the ur-quattro, the vast majority on the
>motorway. the car deserves better than this. in the same fashion, the rs2
>is
>simply commuting me to work on the motorways. while this is the reality,
>the
>s8 is a much better tool for this purpose, and coupled with our 2002 a3,
>also no great problem for city living.
>
>the other reality is that owning an immaculate, low kms ur-quattro is a
>mixed blessing. any "playing around" with the car would cost me
>significantly in depreciation, so over the last year or so i have come to
>the realisation that i would be better picking up a late wr, ripping the
>engine and transmission out of it, and turning it into a 20v equivalent
>which i could play around with it (e.g. aan + 016 w/torsen), or even a
>small
>v8 unit. that is something i will look to achieve over the next few years.
>
>i will sign-off the ur-quattro list soon, but hang around on the rs2 list
>for a little while and start lurking on the a8 list, now that i've become a
>v8 nerd.
>
>thanks for the help, words of wisdom and support over the last 7 years that
>i have owned these 2 great cars. rest assured that i will be doing my best
>to ensure the ur-quattro stays in good hands...
>
>dave
>'01 s8
>
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