better rear brakes

[no1of consequence]

WHOA, Nellie! sorry for trying to help a bruther out!


>>i never raced it [on a track =] but i drove it pretty hard on the street.
>
>Track driving and "hard" street driving are not even close to comparison.


really? wow. piercing insight. i actually was being facetious, whch i
suppose would have been more obvious, if i were wittier. or maybe if you
werent sitting on youre sense of humor.


>>living in sf you get plenty of opportunity to experience brake fade,
>
>His problem isn't brake fade, at least not as he expressed it in his
>original post...
>

true.. i didnt mean to imply that it was. i was simply trying to offer a
somewhat more tangible improvement than; "YAH DUDE, THEYRE WICKED PISSAH."
which is what i think i said later in my post..

>
>That's probably because your proportioning valve wasn't working(or adjusted
>properly.)  They freeze up all the time.  Going to bigger brakes in back
>will make the problem seem smaller, but you're fixing a symptom, not the
>problem.


anythings possible. i actually had the brakes pressure tested when my
mecahnic got a cool new tool jsut for that purpose. i suspected my rear
load-compensating bias doohickey was off because my rear brakes were showing
very little pad dust.



>>i did have drilled rotors
>
>Drilled rotors are mostly useless.  Even the Porsche ones(which, it turns
>out, Porsche lied about- they are NOT cast, they really ARE drilled).


where will the injustice end?


Show me a drilled or slotted rotor, I'll show you an
>overpriced, structurally weakened rotor with less thermal mass and less
>contact area that is going to be full of brake pad material and rust in a
>few weeks anyway.


you know, theres are sereral equally sound-sounding arguments for
drilled/slotted rotors that i have run through  my mathematically challenged
plebian brain. i used drileld rotors on the 5thou for about 2 years
altogether, and they wre great. didnt break, crack, eat pads at an alarming
rate, nuthin. and i drove this big heavy car very hard for 2 years rather
abusively. one big sell point was that because they were anodized, they
actually stayed nice and shiny and didnt get all rusty. i will def. use them
on my next car.

even if theres no measurable improvement [which i would bet on]  they make
me feel a little cooler and i would SWEAR i get more chicks with drilled
brakes.


>I've seen the evidence first-hand; a qclub instructor tried all sorts of
>things on his 90q20v, including slotted rotors and drilled rotors. They
>came off the car looking like a disaster- stress cracks, slots full of
>brake pad material+rust...you know what he did?  Did the G60 upgrade(I
>believe) and solid rotors.
>

was he racing it? or just street driving it?


>>ss lines
>
>Not only worthless, but dangerous.

this is another argument i want to believe, and really sounds super, but
when i asked all over the place NOONE ever
had, or knew of, a ss brake line bursting. i even posted this to a few
motorcycle groups to check, figuring MC drivers get REALLY pissed if their
front brake lines bust and not one person actually had a case they'd heard
of where someone broke a line. i had them on my volkswagons for years and
never had a problem either.

i think this is skin to new york's rep for muggings. noone i know, knows
anyone who's been mugged or knows someone whos been mugged. but watch out!
cuz you never know..


>
>>mintex pads
>
>Can't comment on aftermarket pads, only to say I'm quite happy with my
>stock(ATE?) pads on my UFO-equipped 200q20v.  I have heard the mintex name
>frequently- I think someone on the 200q20v list runs them on his
>G60-equipped 200q20v when he does track events.
>

dude, ate pads SUCK worse than anything on earth. they make a MESS out of
wheels in about 12 minutes. the performance is CRAP compared to a decent set
of agressive street pads, and they dont make any dust! id gladly change them
3 times more often and get no improvement in braking or pedal feel to not
have to spend 2 hours every saturday with a toothbrush in my bbs's to keep
them from looking like they got caught in a flamethrower [black+sooty]. do
yourself a favor and get a good set of pads. your rotors and your detailer
will thank you.


>Careful who you buy from-


i like the 2bennett boys. nice guys, sell good kit, always have good
reccomendations to make. happy to plug them. and theyre an hour away.


>If you're exceeding the boiling point of almost any decent brake fluid
>during street driving, something's not quite right.  You did say San Fran,
>but I'm still surprised.  If you still insist on high boiling point brake
>fluid, Ford's standard issue DOT4 fluid is reportedly excellent, and quite
>inexpensive.  Not to mention, easy to come by.


ive never actually seen my brake juice boiling [anyone..?], but there have
been times when the pedal gets real spongy, not so much in sf unless im
taking 5 people for the pac heights tour. moreso in tahoe where the altitue
is high, the roads are smooth and the hills are long + steep!


>"They that give up essential liberty to obtain temporary
>safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Ben Franklin

"Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids,
we'd
all be running around darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to
repetitive electronic music."
-Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc. 1989

later,
jim

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