Rasafrassin' nogood blickablackin' risafrassin...front

Kurt Deschler desch at alum.wpi.edu
Mon Apr 12 13:19:45 EDT 2004


The last one of these I did was extra stubborn. I tried pulling it out
with wood screws in several locations with no luck. The strategy I ended
up using was to pull off part of the top of the seal and push in a small
part of the outer edge with a drift or screwdriver. That relieved the
press fit of the seal and it came out easily. Use caution not to nick the
crankshaft at all. Light taps with a big hammer should avoid damage.

	Kurt
	87 5kcstq
	00 s4
	88 vw gti 16v

> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 20:57:45 -0400
> From: Huw Powell <audi at humanspeakers.com>
> Subject: Re: Rasafrassin' nogood blickablackin' risafrassin...front
> 	crankshaft oil seal (CGT)
> To: Jonathan Monetti <jmone3036 at earthlink.net>
> Cc: quattro at audifans.com
> Message-ID: <4079E989.5060703 at humanspeakers.com>
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>
> > I have met my match.  As a last resort before ordering the $100+ front crank
> > oil seal removal tool, anyone have a good BTDT?
> >
> > This is an 87.5 NG-motored CGT undergoing a slow (night, weekend) TB change.
> > All was going well until I got to the front oil seal.  I have a new one on
> > hand, so I can see how it's made & how it fits, but for the life of me can't
> > get the old one out.  I was trying to avoid buying VAG 3083, and had read a
> > few archived posts and web comments that some folks have...
> >
> > 1) slid it right out, no problem
> > 2) done it with dental picks and/or needlenose
> > 3) driven two drywall screws into the seal's front face and pulled it out
> > easily
> >
> > But mine seems to have been placed there by Satan.  None of the above (nor
> > some creative alternatives) have worked.
>
> When I did my 90Q a year or two ago, it wasn't pretty, but I simply kept
> wrecking at it until there no longer an old crank seal in existence.  In
> other worse, after the "tricks" failed, I just kept doing nasty things
> to it until its little spring thing was tortured out.
>
> (3rd picture down: http://www.humanspeakers.com/audi/tbwp-90.htm )
>
> I relied on my trusty brake tool to do most of the destruction (it's
> like a dental pick on steroids), as I recall.
>
> Just try not to scratch the crank or oil pump surfaces (too much).
>
> P.Dooley wrote:
> > I would remove the oil pan bolts and pull the aluminum housing that the
> > seal resides in.  Then you can use whatever means necessary to remove
> > the seal.
> > Even if you have to replace the housing gasket and oil pan gasket, still
> > cheaper than the overpriced tool.
>
> It is certainly easy to remove the seal with the oil pump removed, you
> can just push it out by hand.  A lot of work if you are left not
> trusting your oil pan gasket, though.  Good time to install a windage
> tray, though.
>
> --
> Huw Powell
>
> http://www.humanspeakers.com/audi
>
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