quattro Digest, Vol 10, Issue 45 - RE: Delrin or Poly bushings? Wo rth it?

Ed Kellock ekellock at gmail.com
Thu Aug 19 00:04:01 EDT 2004


You know, I never said that only a Q-club instructor could teach a
person how to drive a quattro.  I only suggested that a Q-club
instructor _might_ have a better feel of how to do so.

I still believe there is no single best line for every vehicle. 
Others here have said as much as well.  And I wasn't trying to speak
to car-on-car racing.  In that situation, you just go for the best you
can get.

There are lots of dynamics to driving other than "the line".  Any
competent instructor should be able to teach that.  I firmly believe
those aspects are equally as important as a good line.

Driving smoothly is not only hugely important to good driving, it is
damn fun to be able to control a car in that manner.  That's why I can
have as much fun in my 150k+ chipped-but-otherwise-stock 200q as I had
in my buddy's Porsche 951.  He's extremely abrupt with his inputs and
is always complaining that he's x seconds slower that this or that
guy.  Two weeks ago he was at yet another PCA track event and came
back talking about how his times improved when he concentrated on
being smooth.

I don't think we're really disagreeing here.

Ed

On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 03:09:28 GMT, l.leung at juno.com <l.leung at juno.com> wrote:
> 
> Totally with Taka on this one. I've been to a number
> of Evolution/McKamey school events and one instructor
> (whom is both an Auto-X and SCCA Club National Champion,
> multiple times in both fields) even made a point to state
> it doesn't make a difference which wheels or what number
> of wheels are driven, particularly in the braking or turning
> part of timed laps. Further to the point, one of my best
> instructors was a National Champ in ESP (i.e. a Camaro,
> prepped), his advice yielded me the greatest improvements
> in lap times at an Evo school event. And, he wasn't the
> first instructor of the day. And, I wasn't a novice (nor
> was I slow, Regional titles, etc.) when I took the school.
> 
> In other words, if you choose to do a track event or school,
> pick one that is convienient, fits your budget, fits your
> needs (fast street, competition Auto-X or Road Race, accident
> avoidance, executive escape (that one ALWAYS sounds fun, in
> the advanced classes you learn to RAM and run or spin and pin
> if you are "cornered")or the one your best buddy wants to go to.
> 
> You will learn regardless of the make sponsoring the school. And
> go have fun.
> 
> LL - NY
> 
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> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 13:07:44 -0400
> From: "TM" <t44tq at mindspring.com>
> Subject: RE: Delrin or Poly bushings? Worth it?
> To: "'David'" <duandcc_forums at cox.net>, <quattro at audifans.com>
> Message-ID: <000201c48545$e1d7a420$0400a8c0 at TAKA1>
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> 
> It is really incorrect to imply that HPDEs run by other
> organizations can't teach you how to drive your Audi quattro.
> 
> AWD doesn't make any difference when you're talking about learning
> the proper line, how to apply brake and throttle smoothly, understanding
> and seeing the apex of a corner, car control skills, learning about
> under- and oversteer, how to heel-and-toe downshift and rev match
> smoothly, etc. Those basic skills are all the same, regardless of the
> car.
> 
> Heck, I practice apexing and proper exit lines every day in an
> automatic Beetle. :-)
> 
> Taka
> 
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