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Mon Jan 26 23:15:13 EST 2004

Greg Galinsky wrote:

> Greg Galinsky wrote:
> 
>> Robert Myers wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I, for one, highly value the contributions of several of our members 
>>> who also happen to be in the OOOO business.  List members such as Ned 
>>> Ritchie, Greg Galinsky, Phil Payne, Mihnea Cotet, and several others 
>>> (who I hope forgive me for omitting reference to their names) 
>>> frequently offer their expertise and experience to the list.  These 
>>> contributions are offered, like everyone else's contributions, free 
>>> of charge.  I would see absolutely nothing wrong with an occasional 
>>> mention of their products or services, especially if they have 
>>> something new to offer.  Their contributions have more than "paid" 
>>> for any small amount of "advertising" they might receive.  I suppose 
>>> it might be possible that someone might abuse the privilege but I 
>>> don't recall any such abuse in the past and I'm sure that any such 
>>> abuse could be handled in the future should it occur.
>>>
>>> At 08:30 AM 1/26/2004 -0500, Cody wrote:
>>>
>>>> My sentiments _exactly_ to the word. I was actually planning on 
>>>> saying just that in about 5 minutes after I finished catching up on 
>>>> my e-mail this morning! Like Mike said about my sig (and others 
>>>> simmilar to mine), I mention my business name, but I have never 
>>>> tried to sell anything on the list. I have on occasion asked about 
>>>> interest for stuff to make, or asked about pricing on certain things 
>>>> I was listing in the mraketplace, but never have done anything 
>>>> commercial on the list. I definately agree on Mikes point about 
>>>> e-bay too, a total ban of auction lins is over the edge, I love 
>>>> knowing about when something is for sale that I may be interested in 
>>>> and I rarely check e-bay due to the usual lack of 5cyl stuff.
>>>>
>>>> -Cody Forbes
>>>> Black Forest Racing
>>>> http://www.500tq.com
>>>> '86 5ktq
>>>> '87 5ktq EFI/K27
>>>> '88 80 4cyl
>>>> '88 90 4cyl
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>>>> From: Mike Arman <armanmik at earthlink.net>
>>>> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 08:15:54 -0500
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >I don't have any problem with an occasional ad on the list - I find 
>>>> them
>>>> >interesting, and useful to get an idea of what bits are selling for 
>>>> on the
>>>> >"casual" marketplace.
>>>> >
>>>> >I think what we might do is fine tune the policy - and we have not 
>>>> really
>>>> >been abusing it, so this isn't a "sky is falling and we gotta fix 
>>>> it NOW!"
>>>> >deal.
>>>> >
>>>> >Personal stuff mentioned one or at most two times, OK. Should ALSO 
>>>> be on
>>>> >marketplace.
>>>> >
>>>> >Unique stuff found on eBay (or wherever), no personal interest, OK
>>>> >
>>>> >Ads for businesses, not OK (belongs on vendor list)
>>>> >
>>>> >Sig lines with the name of the business, OK (I don't mind knowing what
>>>> >other listers do for a living)
>>>> >
>>>> >Sig lines with name, phone number, fax, email, address, full 
>>>> product line,
>>>> >testimonials, we take credit cards etc. not OK (belongs on vendor 
>>>> list)
>>>> >
>>>> >Commercial ads (dealers) for cars for sale, not OK (belongs on 
>>>> marketplace)
>>>> >
>>>> >A few of us are going to have a problem no matter what - Joel 
>>>> Osserman, who
>>>> >I believe is a leasing company, has a pretty specific sig line, but 
>>>> since
>>>> >he doesn't abuse the list by posting his entire off-lease sales 
>>>> list every
>>>> >two hours, I can't really see a problem. We have a number of other 
>>>> listers
>>>> >who make their living (or part of it) from the four rings, Phil Payne,
>>>> >Scott Mockery (sp?), Cody Forbes (racing in S. Florida), Igor 
>>>> Kessel, and
>>>> >these people contribute to the list on a regular basis, so THEIR 
>>>> sig line
>>>> >is also part of their credentials.
>>>> >
>>>> >Appeals for help from relatives of dead dictators to sneak $X million
>>>> >dollars out of sub-Saharan countries and please don't tell anyone - 
>>>> take
>>>> >'em out and shoot 'em.
>>>> >
>>>> >Best Regards,
>>>> >Mike Arman
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _____
>>>
>>> Tax cuts for the Resident's cronies.  $87 billion for Iraq.  School 
>>> libraries are closing.  Yep - no child left behind.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>> *****
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>>>  Rt. 4, Box 57, Fayetteville, WV 25840 USA WV tag Q SHIP
>>>  '95 urS6 Cashmere Grey - der Wunderwagen  ICQ 22170244
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>>> *****
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>>
>> I feel like a relative newcomer to the list.  I've only been posting 
>> for a few years.  I've tried to offer my knowledge in an unbiased form 
>> to those who may benefit from it.  Like some other people on the list 
>> in "business"; we may have a higher level of expertise and exposure to 
>> more situations.  It's from this experience that we are able to 
>> increase our own knowledge and try to share it with the list.
>>
>> The fine line gets to be when we post to the list; how does someone 
>> interpet the post.  Different people may read different things in the 
>> same post.   It's our obligation as professionals to try and post as 
>> accurately as possible and in an unbiased manner.  Try not to start 
>> some rants. I feel if I can share some valid info with the list; I'll 
>> do it and give my opinions.  We don't want things to get to the point 
>> of censorship, or do we?  I think that if those of us posters "in 
>> business";  stick to posting  in fields of their knowledge it can only 
>> help the list.  I feel OK posting to the Q list info about tires; 
>> especially snow tires.  I'm not going to post to the list offering 
>> advice on A6 turbos or anything else I don't have the slightest clue 
>> about.
>>
>> As Rodney King said "can't we all just get along".  If anyone has 
>> something to share that may help others; that I thought was the intent 
>> of the list.
>>
>> When some people complain about the bandwidth wasted about diffent sig 
>> lines, etc; look then at the rants that start and use BW. how many 
>> stupid posts have we already had about the sig lines!!!!!!!
>> I'm only glad someone didn't post anything about Torsens in their sig 
>> line; everyone would be mumbling and ranting.
>>
>> Greg Galinsky
>> G & G Service
>>
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