Transmission Modifications (016)
Alan Pritchard
apritchard at seaeye.com
Wed Mar 31 08:48:30 EST 2004
Funny.... I often thought how cool it would be to mount a 5cyl turbo in the
usual orientation, so that the front axles mated with the rear in a coupe
Quattro or such like. What a superb mid engined 2 seater that would be...
and off course as a development incorporate the rear diff into the front of
the car and somehow connect it all up. That would be fun but really tricky,
alternatively turn the whole engine and drivetrain thru' 180 degrees, and
make the engine run backwards (not that silly an idea). Never would
entertain attempting it though!!!
Best Regards,
Alan Pritchard,
Mechanical design engineer,
Network administrator.
Seaeye Marine LTD.
+44 (0)1329 289000
www.Seaeye.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Cody [mailto:Cody at mail.craincorporated.com]
Sent: 31 March 2004 14:39
To: quattro at audifans.com; Dan Cordon; Denis Julien
Subject: Re: Transmission Modifications (016)
Note that a Vanagon/Westfalia Syncro driveline is not only rare and decently
expensive, but also rather fragile. I am involved in the VW Bus/Camper crowd
too (I have 3 Westfalia's, one VW powered, one Porsche 6cyl powered, and one
6cyl Subaru powered), and have seen tons of driveline failures with
aggressive offroading even when still powered by the stock 4cyl VW motor. A
turbo rotary would fairly readily destroy a Syncro tranny and/or diff in
short order (only matters on which breaks first or if they go together).
If it's going to be tube frame why not front engine with Quattro driveline?
I think if you go rear engine your only choice is going to be expensive
stuff, maybe Porsche stuff from a Carrera 4.
-Cody Forbes
'86 5ktq
'87 5ktq EFI/K27
'88 80 4cyl
'88 90 4cyl
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Denis Julien" <sparkplugvw at hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 12:15:12 -0500
>Mmmmm i trying to do what i asked many time here in this list ;-)
>
>There is what i got:
>
>For the rear diff you have to put it up side down, but need to had more oil
>in the diff.
>
>For the tranny , the main shaft does all the job in the tranny, it cant be
>reverse without reverse the ring and pinion.
>The pinion and ring cant be reverse, the case is not fabricated as a VW air
>cooled wich you can reverse it to make 911 config or 914 config.
>
>You have to machine the case to reverse the pinion and ring. I tought about
>machine the case but you ll need two case , cut the side you want to swap
on
>both..... and you ll have to machine the alignment distance, shims,,,,, it
>ll cost ouffffffffffff much more than a VW buss tranny 4x4.
>
>Best way is to get a 4x4 bus tranny.
>
>Denis J
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Dan Cordon" <cord4530 at uidaho.edu>
>To: "Quattro List" <quattro at audifans.com>
>Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 11:17 AM
>Subject: Transmission Modifications (016)
>
>
>> I have a spare torsen tranny at home now from a 91 200 tq. I had planned
>> to swap it in my 5k, but have since decided not to. However, I was
>> thinking of building a strange creation with it. I'm sure it's
>> blasphemy, but I was considering attaching a turbo 13B rotary to it.
>> Then, hanging the whole thing backwards ala the aircooled VW's.
>>
>> My question is this: Is it possible to swap sides of the ring gear to
>> get the output to spin the opposite direction? I know you can do this
>> with porsche and VW cases, but I don't know if you can do it with the
>> 016 audi tranny. If so, how about the rear diff? Can it be swapped to
>> the other side too?
>>
>> I'm thinking an awd play car that will likely be a tube chassis creation
>> like the Formula SAE cars many universities build each year.....only
>> slightly larger and maybe seating for two.
>>
>> --
>> Dan Cordon
>> Mechanical Engineer
>> University of Idaho - Engine Research Facility
>>
>>
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