Car Detailing
Brett Dikeman
brett at cloud9.net
Mon May 17 12:55:18 EDT 2004
At 4:55 PM -0400 5/10/04, David wrote:
>I do not know how to wet sand, but I have no problem paying a good
>shop to do it for me. The question is...how much is reasonable to
>pay a shop to wetsand my Coupe GT? It's black (not metalic) and the
>paint is about 1.5 years old. it was never "perfect" ( a few
>imprefections, fish-eye like) and now has some swirl marks I'd like
>to get rid of.
Wet sanding is complete, gross, total overkill for that new paint,
unless you've been grossly negligent in taking care of it.
Wet sanding is for when there is SEVERE damage to the paint. Sean
Ford had someone take a garage broom to his car at a community car
wash (he described one of those cinematic slow-motion "Nooooooooo!!!"
scenes) - THAT is when you need wet-sanding.
As for other comments in the thread- I've been using P21S wax since
around the time it came out, and it is good stuff for black cars. It
is a "show wax" and not particularly durable- if you want the most
durable wax, get One Grand Blitz wax which is widely regarded as one
of the 'toughest' waxes; it costs a third as much and comes in a
larger container. If you want low maintenance, Klasse stuff
(however, be aware that some people find the stuff very difficult to
apply). Perfect for the mom-mobiles, -especially- on wheels which
never get washed enough- what is it with women and brake dust? :)
Random Orbital buffers- the key word here is -random-. Porter cable
makes an excellent unit which is available from tool stores- DO NOT
get it from Griots, they charge almost $100 more. Make sure you get
at -least- one foam pad (one usually comes with the unit, but they're
sold as RO sanders or RO buffers with corresponding accessories so
pay attention to what's coming in the box).
Zymol's HD Cleanse is quite aggressive(which is why it works so well)
and as far as I know, not machine-safe. Zymol's products are
completely, totally overhyped and overpriced; I believe you pay for
all the umlauts. I remember their leather cleaner+conditioner came
in tiny little bottles and cost as much or more than giant bottles of
Lexol's stuff. As Taka noted, they're experts at product packaging,
which is why the stuff costs so much. My particular "favorite" of
this marketing is the brand-specific wax; special Volvo wax? Gimme a
damn break. Skip them unless you've won the lottery.
The best way to get rid of swirls is to never put them into the paint
in the first place. RO buffer with a clean pad. Cotton cloths with
labels snipped off for removal/buffing/spot drying. Car wash
brushes, not sponges or (eek) those lambswool (or even worse, fake
lambswool) mitts. Squeege, not chamios, for drying. Keep it waxed
so stuff doesn't stick, and cause a scratch as you remove it.
If they're already in, you can either remove them or cover them up.
Glazes are for covering them up, and many products contain "fillers"
to do so. For example, I use Pinnacle Paintwork cleanser and it
contains some fillers. Sample process:
-start with moist buffer pad(remember, random orbital)
-spray some water from a spray bottle onto the panel
-apply a dime-sized amount of cleanser on the pad
-fire up the buffer
-buff off with clean cotton cloth
The water means that I don't have to use much stuff, I get a very
gentle action, and it's easier to remove since it's diluted. PPC
contains some fillers and so swirls and spider webs for the most part
disappear. The paint surface is left super-smooth.
If you want to remove the scratches, use 3M's swirl remover or
similar, which is abrasive, so use it only occasionally (remember,
never put the scratches in!) Apply with RO buffer, remove, inspect
for improvement, repeat until panel is done to your satisfaction.
Overhead flourescent lighting is the best lighting to do this sort of
work, makes it easier to see the swirls/scratches. Never do any of
this in direct sun or on a warm/hot car.
Oh, and if you're on a budget- Mother's. Everything, particularly
their car wash, works well, and the stuff is all very easy to use.
Their plastic polish is my first choice for restoring a beat up
plastic surface(turn signal lenses etc). Use their hard wax, not the
liquid wax however- liquid waxes are almost all worthless.
Brett
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