quick question, typ 89
Denis
sparkplugvw at hotmail.com
Wed Apr 13 10:05:49 EDT 2005
A friend of mine ran a moded 4 cyl electronique systeme on a 5 cyl. It Digifan from VW. He told me the injectors fire at the same time so it can be use on 5.
Its what i have been told. I did saw him anymore. So i can't get more info about it.
Ðenis
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Pritchard
To: Ben Swann ; audi at humanspeakers.com
Cc: quattro at audifans.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 10:00 AM
Subject: RE: quick question, typ 89
Stupid question.....
But wouldn't the 4cyl loom/electronics run on the 5cyl engine?
At the end f the day the ecu doesn't care how many sparks per cycle
there are, it only sees and deals with individual sparks.....
am I being stupid?
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Swann [mailto:benswann at comcast.net]
Sent: 13 April 2005 14:39
To: audi at humanspeakers.com
Cc: Alan Pritchard; quattro at audifans.com
Subject: Re: quick question, typ 89
Huw,
The system I pulled from '89 model 80 was not Motronic, but a late
version
of mechanical fuel injection with knock sensing, essentially the 4 Cyl
version of CIS-E3. To my surprise, there was only one control unit
which
integrated the fuel and ignition systems - everything goes to one brain.
Ben
----- Original Message -----
From: "Huw Powell" <audi at humanspeakers.com>
To: "Ben Swann" <benswann at comcast.net>
Cc: <alan.pritchard at rm-electrical.com>; <quattro at audifans.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 3:30 AM
Subject: Re: quick question, typ 89
>
> > Yes, the M80 is also CIS E-3 and the major difference is that the 90
is
a
> > 5cyl and 80 is a 4cyl in most cases.
>
> According to a quick skim of my Bentley, as per memory, the 4 cyl
(USA)
> id Motronic, not CIS. IE, completely incompatible.
>
> > In the M80 I pulled a engine
> > management harness and control unit - there was only one control
unit.
In
> > the 87.5 the fuel and ignition units were separate. They may have
> > integrated them in later versions.
>
> Every CIS-E3 car I've cut into has two control units - one for fuel,
one
> for ignition. In fact, my 90Q came to me with an 87.5 ign. computer
> installed, that I sold the local tech to get it running again. Fuel
in
> one place, ignition buried in the right kick panel where windshield
> leaks will kill it...
>
> In short - as far as USA models go - the 4 cyl is Motronic and
> completely incompatible with the 5 cyl CIS-E3 system.
>
> As far as the ROW is concerned, well, we don't know for sure... they
> won't tell us on the news, what's happening out there....
>
> --
> Huw Powell
>
> http://www.humanspeakers.com/audi
>
> http://www.humanthoughts.org/
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