4000s starting issue (no click/crank)

[Huw Powell]

>  i swaped the 2 cables with no change. I also
> tried adding ground from the battery neg direct to
> either upper&lower terminals on the solenoid. No click
> or crank.

Certainly sounds like a dead starter...

>  I dug a bit deeper into the issue, I was told by a
> mechanic that you need a special 'c'-shaped Obstruction
> wrench to remove the starter (i.e.
> http://www.hazet.de/eng/katalog/suche_3.asp?F=615&H=100&U=306

Naw, I just played with the starters in my coupe and 90 and all it takes 
is regular wrenches and sockets.  Mostly sockets and an extension or 
two, really.  Although, 1. I could see one of those wrenches making some 
of it easier, perhaps, and 2. yours is an auto, but that shouldn't make 
it impossible to get a regular socket on the starter bolts.

> Also, I noticed a not in the
> electrical schematics that the AUTO starter setup
> differs from the MANUAL
> those pages are here:
> manual trans:
> http://www3.sympatico.ca/joane.dadie-/audi-4000-97-239.jpg
> auto trans:
> http://www3.sympatico.ca/joane.dadie-/audi-4000-97-260.jpg

You should not even have to worry about that.  The auto has a relay that 
locks out the starter unless the trans is in P or N.  In manual 
fuseboxes, this relay is bypassed with a little brass shunt.

I suppose it would make sense to test the relay, but you have a good 12v 
(lights a bulb) down at the starter already, so it works.

> & here's that reference to the solenoid's conenctors:
> http://www3.sympatico.ca/joane.dadie-/audi-4000-27-11.jpg
> i've dotted in blue the locations of my two connectors
> forming a cros patter as opposed to what's in the Audi
> book.

Not sure what the question was there...

> '86 4000s auto 
> 5-Cyl. 2.2

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Huw Powell

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