Clutch Job : Input S won't go thru pilot b-any tricks?

[L DC]

Thanks Richard.

Other listers suggested the same thing. I will
definitely try rotating the output flanges while in
gear and see if that does the trick. 

Another lister on the QSW list even suggested to very
carefully drill around the inner edge of the pilot
bearing as to take away any possible "mushrooming." I
hope not go there and shouldn't since the pilot
bearing seem intact once installed, which I intend to
do the same with the yet another new one I have to now
install.


-Regards,

-Louis



--- Richard J Lebens <rick-l at rocketmail.com> wrote:

> Since you have so much help can you put it in gear
> and try rotating the
> input shaft with the output a little as you try to
> mate it?
> 
> --- L DC <ldc007usa at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hi everyone.
> > 
> > Sunday, I tried and tried to make the tranny's
> input
> > shaft in my '85 VW QSW go through the pilot
> bearing
> > but was unsuccessful. 
> > 
> > What's the trick?  Please advise.
> > 
> > I set the pilot bearing in the back to the crank
> shaft
> > as deep as the old one. Looked very nice and
> straight.
> > 
> > I also aligned the clutch with its specific tool
> and
> > tightened pressure plate to torque specs and both
> > holes in the clutch and pilot bearing looked quite
> > aligned.
> > 
> > Tranny slid right in through the clutch serrated
> hole
> > nicely and then the tranny's bell housing stopped
> > about 3/4 to an inch away from the engine block,
> the
> > approximate length of the pilot bearing.
> > 
> > I even had the tranny's holding bolt holes aligned
> to
> > their respective threaded holes on the engine
> block
> > using socket extensions.
> > 
> > I wiggled and wiggled the tranny to make the input
> > shaft go through the pilot bearing to no avail.
> > 
> > My friend and I pulled the tranny backwards to
> inspect
> > things inside the clutch and pilot bearing looked
> fine
> > with the clutch hole still aligned with the
> pilot's
> > bearing.
> > 
> > 
> > A second friend comes by and suggested wiggling
> the
> > trany a bit more as we pushed forward----nothing,
> it
> > would not budge in.
> > 
> > Decided to pull tranny back out to take a second
> look
> > inside clutch.
> > 
> > This time, pilot bearing is destroyed. Lower part
> of
> > the ring, about 6 o'clock , is slightly torn
> outward
> > and a couple of its longitudinal bearings out of
> place
> > inside the pilot bearing.
> > 
> > Pilot bearing is the right size and fit nicely
> inside
> > the end of the input shaft, as tested prior to
> > installing.
> > 
> > This afternoon/evening, I will rent the pilot
> bearing
> > from the local FLAPS and R&R the pilot bearing as
> I
> > did before.
> > 
> > A fourth friend suggested this morning to tilt the
> > tranny slightly upwards by lowering its back a bit
> to
> > perhaps make the input shaft find it way in the
> pilot
> > bearing and then immediately straighten it out to
> > drive it home.
> > 
> > I though I kind of did that but not sure at this
> point
> > since I tried quite a few angles.
> > 
> > It does not help the fact that I’m doing this job
> > while car in on 2 jack stands and ramps, secured
> of
> > course by cement blocks around chasis.
> > 
> > Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
> > 
> > -Regards,
> > 
> > Louis
> > 
> > 
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