1987 5ktq "Tantrum" behaving badly as e-test is due
Steve Sears
steve.sears at soil-mat.on.ca
Thu Jul 20 15:32:38 EDT 2006
Hi all,
I've been troubleshooting some problems I've been having with my 5ktq as
e-test time approaches. Idling between 1400 and 1600 rpm on about a 1 Hz
frequency - started that way one morning late last week and has done so ever
since.
I've chased the "usual suspects": ISV is new, clean and in working order,
replaced the plugs, cap rotor, dizzy recently due to a weak hall sensor.
Throttle body switch is in working order after a short stint of 3k idle that
started 2 days ago when troubleshooting (wire broken in connector). Fuel
injectors (leaky and possibly wrong type???, replaced with non-leaky correct
used ones, cleaned and bottle-tested), cold start valve clean, O2 sensor (2
years old generic) replaced with (used, spare) Bosch with no effect.
I know there's a leak in the wg diaphragm that I haven't addressed but I've
been off the boost and it was noticed a while back.
I made up a pressure tester from stuff from the local Home Despot and
applied regulated pressure to the intake at the Michelin Man hose - some
small leaks at 1.8 bar (dash) and a massive leak around the butterfly shaft
on the throttle body. The parts engine I have has a TB that is slightly
different than the one originally on my car - no dashpot, slightly different
idle screw location, and a small hole through the lower section of butterfly
where the original didn't have any. I installed the new TB, it held way
more pressure than the original (only a slight shaft leak at 1.8 bar), but
the car still idles between 1400 and 1600 and now it stumbles when starting
and running. A couple of questions:
1. Are the two throttle bodies interchangeable?
2. What am I missing that would cause such an oscillating idle?
Many Thanks,
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
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