Opinionated Pseudo-Political Non-Audi &%$#! onn Audifans.com

Mark J. Besso mbspeed at maxboostracing.com
Fri Mar 10 03:13:14 EST 2006 

Must --- not --- get --- sucked --- into --- this.......

.....crap, I can't resist.

Before I add my own demi-rant to this thread I need to proclaim my pride in 
top-posting, without trimming, and complete disregard for anyone else's 
feelings about it.  Oh yeah, I changed the subject line for the pure 
pleasure of knowing it'll make this harder to search for in the archives. 
(End of my self-serving statements)

I could care less about Brett's comments that aren't related to Audi 
ownership and the frustration/enjoyment associated with that.  They can be 
deleted as quickly as any other form of SPAM.  Alex's obvious disgust with 
Brett's tactics seem to have altered his ability to delete/block all 
messages from Brett's address.  Ryan?  C'mon now...... do we have to use 
that kind of language?  Oh well, looks like another person has earned the 
"delete now" status.  If any of the aforementioned folks happen to have 
Audi-related information in their posts then I'll likely read them 
because -believe it or not- that's why I subscribed to this list.

Do you drive an Audi or some other VWaG product?  If so, I'm interested in 
reading about it here on Audifans.com.

Do you have a question about an Audi or some other VWaG product?  If so, 
I'll answer on this list when I think my answer will be of benefit to the 
collective audience.  If not, I'll answer off-list when I think it's still 
potentially helpful.

Do you have an experience with an Audi or some other VWaG product that you'd 
like to share [in a virtual sense, anyway] with the rest of the world?  If 
so, post it with pride!

I could care less about your political, religious, ethnic, gender, 
affiliations.  There are proper forums for all of them someplace else in the 
online world.  I have no doubt that each of you has something worth reading 
on those various subjects.  It's a shame none of you has found the proper 
outlet for those opinions.  I can heartily assure you this is NOT the place!

~Mark


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ryan C Moone" <moone924 at yahoo.com>
To: <quattro at audifans.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: Hey Brett,What Crawled Up Your Bunghole? WAS LAC Using an 
FM Transmitter/MP3Player: BAD!


> That's real shit you write. I'm the least like you all and probably 
> furthest from Brett's views than any of you (look for me on the latest NBC 
> special) yet Iike reading Brett's posts. He is opinionated and not afraid 
> to show it, he's stronge with his beliefs, and that's a lot better than 
> the average american with no beliefs other than the TV's.
>
> This list is about cars, express your views, but don't let someone elses 
> psuh you away from the cars you love, just as your's won't push them away 
> from there's.
>
> Ryan Moon
>
> Alex Kowalski <hypereutectic1 at gmail.com> wrote: Forwarded message.  I'll 
> gladly abandon this list if Brett continues to be
> the spokesperson.  I have no interest in being a part of such a list, 
> giving
> money to it, or supporting anyone that does so.
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Alex Kowalski
> Date: Mar 10, 2006 1:12 AM
> Subject: Re: Hey Brett, What Crawled Up Your Bunghole? WAS LAC Using an FM
> Transmitter/MP3 Player: BAD!
> To: Mark R speedracer.mark at gmail.com
>
> I'm sick of the guy.  He obviously has a political agenda in almost
> everything he writes on the list now, and I don't agree with him, and I 
> most
> certainly don't agree with his politics.  If he wants to continue to be a
> list administrator, fine, I can certainly do without the Audifans list
> running under his aegis.  I'll just stop contributing time and money to 
> the
> list, and Brett can continue his anti-corporate leftist BS until he's blue
> in the face.  I'm not upset about polarizing this situation in the 
> slightest
> -- I hope some people on this list that actually work for corporations 
> like
> CompUSA and others get on his back or at the very least walk away from 
> this
> list.
>
> He's a lefty piece of crap, and that's my frank opinion of him.  If he 
> wants
> to keep it up, and keep infusing his Chomskyesque baloney into everything 
> he
> writes, fine.  Let him go write a car column for Democracy NOW! and become
> one of Amy Goodman's pals.  But I've read enough of his garbage over the
> past two years to realize that he's a spoiled little brat with a 
> superiority
> complex and I'm sick and tired of him.  Brett is the polarizing figure 
> here,
> not me.  He has a long history of this and I have at least one person who
> thanked me for speaking up the other day.  It's about time that someone 
> told
> him that not everyone on the Quattro List is a lapsed Unitarian 
> Universalist
> Mac-using Linux Kernel developing, anti-corporate leftist.  And if he
> doesn't get that message, it's his fault.
>
> Cheers,
> Alex
>
>
> On 3/10/06, Mark R  wrote:
>>
>>  Alex,
>> I hope this thead dies now.  I don't always agree with Brett's personal
>> views or his putting them out on the list, especially since he's a list
>> administrator.  In fact, Brett often asks us to trim posts, minimize
>> bandwidth, etc.  Yet he adds totally (or nearly) off-topic rants.
>> Personally, I'd ask him to be a bit more introspective.  Even if I didn't
>> know Brett personally and know he's a genuinely nice individual, I still
>> wouldn't call him (in reference to the above) a "hypocrite."  That would
>> just flame a person and polarize a situation.  Instead, I'd respectfully 
>> ask
>> Brett to be more judicious with his personal rants on the list.  I'd hope
>> anyone would offer me the same courtesy if they feel this or any of my
>> other posts are inappropriate.
>>
>> That said, there's no excuse to attack a list member.  At best, it's a
>> flame.  At worst, it's childish.  Either way, it serves no real purpose
>> other than to make the lister (and therefore the list membership) appear 
>> to
>> be petty.  Frankly, I've had the pleasure of meeting a lot of listers. 
>> On
>> and off the list, as a group, I know we're much better than this.
>>
>> Best wishes to all,
>> Mark Rosenkrantz
>>
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