c dyer wrote: > But today I got me a '02 allroad, 56k mi., black, > $22.5k. I passed on the $4k extended warranty...BUM > BUM BUUUUUMMMMM... Wow, a 15 year swing in car ages -- the '02 should drive like a new car. Sorry I can't help with the raise/lower times. -- Kent McLean '94 100 S Avant, "Moody" '89 200 TQ, "Bad Puppy" up in smoke