side window mounting confusion

[DeWitt Harrison]

After a lot of research, opinion seeking and test fitting,
I have been able to determine that the mystery window
is most likely a miss-marked window for an Ur-S4.

Type 44 driver's window p/n = 443 845 021 G
Ur-S4 driver's window p/n = 4A0 845 021 A
The glass is exactly the same. The fittings are different.

There are differences beyond the mounting clip.
The front window guide pin that slides in the
a-pillar groove is shorter in the Ur-S4 window
causing this window to bind and stall in a Type 44
window frame. Also, the little plastic caps on the
inside heads of these pins are thicker creating an
interference problem when trying to insert the guide
pins into their respective channels.

If any of you old S4 dudes ever frequent this list, perhaps
you could comment on whether the front side window
lifting hole in the plastic window mount/clip is
oblong vs. round. (Actually, I think I'll go over there
and ask directly.) And if you need a driver's door
window, I know where you can get them.

DeWitt Harrison
'88 5kcstq


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Huw Powell" <audi at humanspeakers.com>
To: "DeWitt Harrison" <six-rs at comcast.net>
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: side window mounting confusion


> It might have been a "running improvement", perhaps due to dealer tech
> complaints about difficulty adjusting replacements, or broken fitment
parts?
>
> DeWitt Harrison wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the response, Huw.
> >
> > Your logic holds together well. There must be a
> > reason for the change. It just kind of nags at me
> > that this style of window bracket or clip seems to
> > have popped up out of 'nowhere.'
> >
> > DeWitt
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Huw Powell" <audi at humanspeakers.com>
> > To: "DeWitt Harrison" <six-rs at comcast.net>
> > Cc: "Quattro List" <quattro at audifans.com>
> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:18 AM
> > Subject: Re: side window mounting confusion
> >
> >
> >
> >>>I bought a replacement window for the driver's door
> >>>in my '88 5000CS (p/n 443 845 021 G). Everything
> >>>looks right except that the hole in the plastic bracket
> >>>which accepts the pin of the window lifter is different
> >>>than the original.
> >>>
> >>>The original bracket has a round hole. The new
> >>>window's bracket has an oblong hole and the
> >>>thickness of the bracket is greater by about 3 mm
> >>>making it impossible to reinstall the original
> >>>stack of rubber washers, etc., which secure
> >>>the window to the lifter's pin. The outer surface
> >>>of the area around the bracket hole is also
> >>>serrated rather than smooth as if a special
> >>>serrated washer or plate should go there.
> >>>
> >>>Anybody have any idea what is going on?
> >>
> >>It sounds to me like two things - or three.
> >>
> >>1. the oblong hole is for adjustment.
> >>
> >>2. the thicker bracket is to make it stronger (perhaps due to the oblong
> >>hole?)  Discard extra washers or use thinner ones.
> >>
> >>3. The serrated area is your "lock washer" to hold the stud in place in
> >>the oblong hole.
> >>
> >>I would simply install it and get it adjusted just right.
> >>
> >>-- 
> >>Huw Powell
> >>
> >>http://www.humanspeakers.com/audi
> >>
> >>http://www.humanthoughts.org/
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> -- 
> Huw Powell
>
> http://www.humanspeakers.com/audi
>
> http://www.humanthoughts.org/