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[Cody Forbes]

Here in NC you have two classes of inspection, OBDII and Pre-OBDII (35 years 
or older doesn't require inspection). BTW, I am an NC inspector so I'm not 
just talking out my ass ;-). Anyways, yeah the pre-OBDII cars get a basic 
safety checkover... really just to make sure the wheels aren't falling off 
and the lights work. Technically you are supposed to check for tampering 
with emissions devices (visually only), but very very few inspectors bother. 
OBDII cars on the other hand get a much more involved going-over, plus our 
inspection computer plugs into the diag port and scans for readiness as well 
as fault codes. Cost of the OBDII inspection is over double that of the 
safety-only inspection. NC doesn't use the tailpipe probes at all anymore, 
so a pre-OBDII car is basically free to run as heavily modified as you 
desire, while an OBDII car can only go so far before you run into issues 
with oxygen sensor codes and cat efficiency codes.

I forgot about the tax thing that somebody else mentioned also. Back home in 
FL sales tax is only applied at time of purchase, but here in NC they tax 
you on cars, house, boat, etc every year. All of my 5000's cost $6.50 each 
in tax each year, whereas a B5 A4 would be over a hundred bucks easy.

-Cody Forbes
http://www.5000tq.com
'87 5ktq - Fast.
'87 5ktq QLCC'd plus some
'86 5ktqCD
'86 5k
'86 5k


Grant Lenahan wrote:
>
> I dont understand this OBD2 thing from Cody. Here in NJ anyway, each
> year has its own specific emissions limits, and they slowly tighten
> as cars get newer. I've never had a properly operating car come even
> close to the legal limit.
>
> Maybe elsewhere there's a magic cliff they fall off of. Not here.
>
> G
> On Dec 28, 2007, at 7:10 PM, Tony Hoffman wrote:
>
>> I'll jump on that bandwagen. From a daily driver perspective, the
>> A4's are far nicer cars, especially the interior. However, they are
>> also very americanized, and therefor have lost much of that "german
>> car character" that makes them special, adn therefore worth all the
>> headaches.
>>
>> Also, I, along with Cody and probably several others on this list,
>> work on these cars (professionally) every day. I'll second the "No
>> thank you". Ever done a TB on a 30V? How about the cam chain
>> tensioner seals? I could damn near rebuild a 4000Q in the time it
>> takes to replace an automatic trans in an A4 Quattro. OK, not quite,
>> but you get the point. And the $$ to maintain one is rediculous also!
>>
>> But, to each their own,
>> Tony Hoffman
>>
>> On Dec 28, 2007 5:48 PM, Michael McLaughlin <mcloffs at mac.com> wrote:
>>> I own an A4, and am not so quick to agree. While having the more
>>> modern car is nice in a lot of ways, it certainly doesn't have the
>>> same feel as the older cars -- my 1990 100 and 1995 90 Quattro had
>>> their issues, but they had that old German indestructible feel. My
>>> wife often suggests we sell the A4 and find another 90; it's
>>> tempting.
>>>
>>> -Mike in Snoqualmie, Wash.
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