5 seconds of cranking to start

[frank j. bauer]

the jc whitney version has all the required adapters.
i can't imagine how it could be "easier to use".

if the starter is taking 5 seconds for 2.5 revolutions of the engine, 
it's not caused by a fuel problem.

cobram at juno.com wrote:
> For the same money you can get one from BMP which is easier to use and
> has all the adapters:
> 
> http://www.bmpdesign.com/product-exec/product_id/447/search_year/1983/se
> 
> Back to the original problem...on the turbos the injectors/seals are
> almost always the culprit. Chances are good the injectors are long
> overdue for replacement.  It's normal for the turbo to take up to 2.5
> revolutions to start, Phil the UR guru said it takes those first couple
> turns for the ECU to figure out what's going on before it'll let the
> engine run. 
> 
> BCNU,
> http://www.geocities.com/cobramsri/
> I live on a one-way street that's also a dead end. I'm not sure how I got
> here, or how I'm going to get out.
>  
> 
> "frank j. bauer" <frankbauer at thevine.net> writes:
>> a quite serviceable cis pressure test kit is available at jc whitney 
>> for 
>> $60 plus the usual:
>>
> http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/Product/Pr-p_Product.CATENTRY_ID:20081
> 26/c-10101/Nty-1/p-2008126/Ntx-mode+matchallpartial/N-10101/tf-Browse/s-1
> 0101/Ntk-AllTextSearchGroup?Ntt=cis+fuel+pressure+gauge
>  
>> cody at 5000tq.com wrote:
>>> Grant that would not work on a 5ktq. They only run the fuel pump 
>> when  
>>> the engine is turning, whether by the starter or by running of 
>> course.
>>> Jeff, this is not 'normal' for your car, but not uncommon at all 
>> among  
>>> CIS fuled cars. Grant's suggestion of the leaking check valve is a 
>>  
>>> likely culprit, as are the fuel pressure accumulator, o-ring on 
>> the  
>>> pressure by-pass piston in the fuel distributor, warm-up  
>>> regulator/differential pressure regulator, and leaking injectors.
>>>
>>> Diagnosing this issue without a CIS pressure gauge set can be 
>> tricky.  
>>> Start by watching carefully for a puff of white smoke when 
>> starting.  
>>> This would hint at leaky injectors. Next you could install a fuse 
>> in  
>>> the top of the fuel pump relay, which would put the car in 
>> diagnostic  
>>> mode and make the fuel pump run any time the ignition is on. Now  
>>> Grant's test is valid - when it's cold like it normally would be 
>> you  
>>> turn the key on and just let the pump run for a few seconds, then 
>> try  
>>> to start. If it starts right away, or at least faster then usual, 
>> then  
>>> we have determined that you have a problem with fuel pressure 
>> leakage.  
>>>  From there it is hard to diagnose without a gauge set, so you may 
>>  
>>> want to either purchase one or visit a friendy shop that is 
>> properly  
>>> equipped. You *could* try removing the fuel injectors (engine not  
>>> running) and look for leakage, but from there it's all guesses 
>> without  
>>> a gauge set.
>>  
>>> -Cody Forbes
>>> http://www.5000tq.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Quoting Grant Lenahan <glenahan at vfemail.net>:
>>>
>>>> Uncommon.  But the real question is "did something change?"
>>>>
>>>> I have foudn that long cranking can be a sign of a weak fuel pump 
>> or
>>>> leaking check valve. On older cars, try this:
>>>>
>>>> 1. turn key to run, listen for fuel pump.
>>>> 2. after 3-5 sec, start car
>>>>
>>>> Did it catch faster?
>>>>
>>>> Grant
>>>> On Oct 7, 2007, at 10:00 PM, JeffreyZentner at aol.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi All
>>>>> I have a question I have a 88 5KTQ and when I start it when it 
>> is cold
>>>>> it
>>>>> takes about 5 seconds of cranking to start it. It always starts 
>> but it
>>>>> seams like
>>>>> that is a lot of creaking is this normal or do I have a 
>> problem?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff Zentner
>>>>> Alta CA
>>>>>
>>>>> 88 5KTQ
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