Imagine what these guys could do with a real car. Tire change 1/4 way through shows how to do it without worrying about jacking points. Reminds me of the old Saab Symphony movie. http://www.flixxy.com/hyundai-driving-skills.htm BCNU, http://www.geocities.com/cobramsri/ "God's a kid with an ant farm, lady. He's not planning anything."