Audi in London

[Steve Meyer]

I think I agree...I know my 4Motion Passat outgrips any 4kq or 90q I've owned...regardless of tires. The only thing is...what type of setup is 4Motion? Maybe I'm just an idiot and my 4Motion is haldex. I've never actually worried about it. It goes down the highway in sloppy stuff without a care. My 90q and 4kq are fun, but when I got the kids in the car I want my Passat. My 100q Avant seems very stable in messy stuff on the highway too. This summer we had loads of rain and the gravel roads were a mess...so I took them home from work every night for fun. Mud, puddles, loose gravel...that's what quattro is for!

slm


--- On Tue, 2/3/09, Mark R <speedracer.mark at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Mark R <speedracer.mark at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Audi in London
> To: "Mark J. Besso" <mbspeed at maxboostracing.com>
> Cc: "Bares, Vittorio" <Vittorio.Bares at nuance.com>, quattro at audifans.com
> Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 12:22 PM
> Mark,
> I hear ya.  I picked up an '87 4KCSQ for ice racing
> because of thi (and it's
> light and cheap!)... but the truth is that the newer
> Quattros have more grip
> (IMHO).
> Maybe not as much tail-happy fun, but more overall grip.
> 
> Mark Rosenkrantz
> 
> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Mark J. Besso
> <mbspeed at maxboostracing.com>wrote:
> 
> > I beg to differ.  The "real" quattro's
> have individually lockable
> > differentials for the center and rear.  They may seem
> primitive, but they
> > sure whoop Torsen's.
> >
> > Not to mention, the Torsen-equipped cars have
> electronics that cut out the
> > lock-up feature over a certain speed.  Just when
> they're starting to get
> > fun, the lock-up is disabled.  Boo!
> >
> >
> >
> > Mark R wrote:
> >
> >   Especially if you have something like 19 inch summer
> tires.....! But the TT
> > doesn't have 'real' quattro
> > anyways, right? ;-)
> >
> > Dan D
> > '04 A4 1.8Tq MT-6
> > Central NJ USA
> >
> >
> > Dan hit the nail on the head!  I just got back from
> instructing at yet
> > another winter driving school (NAAC) and good tires
> are of course the number
> > one thing to have for the conditions.  But
> "real" Quattro (with a torsen
> > center diff) is head and shoulders above anything
> else, ESPECIALLY Haldex
> > based systems.
> >
> > Subaru and BMW get is mostly right, but there's
> something about real Quattro
> > that is absoluitely tops.  And the control/fun of the
> Torsen systems go from
> > understeer to subtle oversteer at just the right
> moment (when the fronts
> > hook up)....  gotta love it!
> >
> > Mark Rosenkrantz (who would take Haldex over FWD or
> RWD, but any other AWD
> > system over Haldex).
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