Toyota UA-LAC

[Robert Myers]

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And lock the steering?  I don't think so.

At 12:52 PM 1/27/2010, Grant Lenahan wrote:
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>ok, so tun off the key.
>
>
>On Jan 27, 2010, at 12:33 PM, john at westcoastgarage.net wrote:
>
> > pdooley wrote:
> >> I don't doubt the pedals are sticking, but I am wondering why the drivers
> >> don't just hit the brakes?
> >> I know for a fact that the engine in my wife's 09 toyota will 
> not overpower
> >> the brakes.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > One of the accidents involved a CHP officer and his family.  In fact,
> > that's what finally brought the whole mess to the front pages.  From
> > what I've read, it appears he flat out cooked the brakes in the Lexus
> > loaner in which he was "along for the ride" to his death.  German cars,
> > for sure, and  (I think) many DBW US cars, have a system whereby the
> > accelerator is rendered inoperative when the brakes are firmly applied.
> > Makes it difficult to bed in brake pads and rotors using traditional
> > techniques.  Toyota, and possibly other Asian manufacturers, chose not
> > to implement this feature in their software.   The pennies per car saved
> > by cheaping out on the software?  Maybe there were potential royalties
> > involved?  Arrogance regarding their media encouraged aura of
> > infallibility?   The NY Times, some car oriented publications, the
> > broadcast media, and loads of "consumerist" online and print sites
> > considered Toyota  the company that could do no wrong, the warm and
> > fuzzy one, the one whose cars eventually decompose and morph into a
> > friendly flowery meadow, the pinnacle of automotive environmentalism.
> > This despite the fact that Toyota's big engines and big vehicles
> > constitute a HUGE profit center, making up for the massive losses
> > incurred with the sale of each and every hybrid, while getting the
> > poorest fuel economy of anything in their class.  Remember, if you tell
> > people something loud enough and long enough, most will believe what
> > you're saying.  Think about it;  Many of the people right here believe
> > XXXX FLAPS "has the right part at the right price", despite the fact
> > that's patently false.  After all, they can't ALL fill that slot in the
> > price hierarchy.  As for the other thoughts presented in this thread,
> > think about it Toyota IS NOT coming right out and dealing with it.
> > They've futzed around with this for about TWO years, and possibly a lot
> > longer.  Most techs I know have dismissed the "carpet in the pedals" as
> > the crock it really is.  As for the sticking throttle, I firmly believe,
> > and never surface in the media, that they have a massive (and VERY
> > scary) software problem, compounded by Toyota's "taking a chance" by
> > choosing to forgo the "failsafe" used by European manufacturers.  This
> > is clearly covered by the now common phrase; "What were they thinking?"
> > Their spokesperson is now in the unenviable position of the US president
> > talking on the phone to the Russian premier in Dr. Strangelove
> > ..................  "Dimitry .............?".
> >
> > John
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