Toyota UA-LAC

[Henry A Harper III]

What key? All I see here is some little button in a funny place that says
"Engine Start/Stop" but if I push it for less than three full seconds the
engine stays on and accelerating, now I'm toast. :)

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> [mailto:quattro-bounces at audifans.com]On Behalf Of Robert Myers
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 10:56 AM
> To: Grant Lenahan
> Cc: john at westcoastgarage.net; quattro at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: Toyota UA-LAC
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> And lock the steering?  I don't think so.
>
> At 12:52 PM 1/27/2010, Grant Lenahan wrote:
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> >ok, so tun off the key.
> >
> >
> >On Jan 27, 2010, at 12:33 PM, john at westcoastgarage.net wrote:
> >
> > > pdooley wrote:
> > >> I don't doubt the pedals are sticking, but I am wondering
> why the drivers
> > >> don't just hit the brakes?
> > >> I know for a fact that the engine in my wife's 09 toyota will
> > not overpower
> > >> the brakes.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > > One of the accidents involved a CHP officer and his family.  In fact,
> > > that's what finally brought the whole mess to the front pages.  From
> > > what I've read, it appears he flat out cooked the brakes in the Lexus
> > > loaner in which he was "along for the ride" to his death.
> German cars,
> > > for sure, and  (I think) many DBW US cars, have a system whereby the
> > > accelerator is rendered inoperative when the brakes are
> firmly applied.
> > > Makes it difficult to bed in brake pads and rotors using traditional
> > > techniques.  Toyota, and possibly other Asian manufacturers, chose not
> > > to implement this feature in their software.   The pennies
> per car saved
> > > by cheaping out on the software?  Maybe there were potential royalties
> > > involved?  Arrogance regarding their media encouraged aura of
> > > infallibility?   The NY Times, some car oriented publications, the
> > > broadcast media, and loads of "consumerist" online and print sites
> > > considered Toyota  the company that could do no wrong, the warm and
> > > fuzzy one, the one whose cars eventually decompose and morph into a
> > > friendly flowery meadow, the pinnacle of automotive environmentalism.
> > > This despite the fact that Toyota's big engines and big vehicles
> > > constitute a HUGE profit center, making up for the massive losses
> > > incurred with the sale of each and every hybrid, while getting the
> > > poorest fuel economy of anything in their class.  Remember,
> if you tell
> > > people something loud enough and long enough, most will believe what
> > > you're saying.  Think about it;  Many of the people right here believe
> > > XXXX FLAPS "has the right part at the right price", despite the fact
> > > that's patently false.  After all, they can't ALL fill that
> slot in the
> > > price hierarchy.  As for the other thoughts presented in this thread,
> > > think about it Toyota IS NOT coming right out and dealing with it.
> > > They've futzed around with this for about TWO years, and
> possibly a lot
> > > longer.  Most techs I know have dismissed the "carpet in the
> pedals" as
> > > the crock it really is.  As for the sticking throttle, I
> firmly believe,
> > > and never surface in the media, that they have a massive (and VERY
> > > scary) software problem, compounded by Toyota's "taking a chance" by
> > > choosing to forgo the "failsafe" used by European manufacturers.  This
> > > is clearly covered by the now common phrase; "What were they
> thinking?"
> > > Their spokesperson is now in the unenviable position of the
> US president
> > > talking on the phone to the Russian premier in Dr. Strangelove
> > > ..................  "Dimitry .............?".
> > >
> > > John
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