Toyota UA-LAC

[Joshua Van Tol]

Or throw the gearshift into neutral. Or stand on the brakes. Turning off the
key won't lock the steering on most cars. You have to actually remove the
key from the lock.


On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Robert Myers <bob at chips-ur-s.com> wrote:

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> And lock the steering?  I don't think so.
>
> At 12:52 PM 1/27/2010, Grant Lenahan wrote:
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> >ok, so tun off the key.
> >
> >
> >On Jan 27, 2010, at 12:33 PM, john at westcoastgarage.net wrote:
> >
> > > pdooley wrote:
> > >> I don't doubt the pedals are sticking, but I am wondering why the
> drivers
> > >> don't just hit the brakes?
> > >> I know for a fact that the engine in my wife's 09 toyota will
> > not overpower
> > >> the brakes.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > > One of the accidents involved a CHP officer and his family.  In fact,
> > > that's what finally brought the whole mess to the front pages.  From
> > > what I've read, it appears he flat out cooked the brakes in the Lexus
> > > loaner in which he was "along for the ride" to his death.  German cars,
> > > for sure, and  (I think) many DBW US cars, have a system whereby the
> > > accelerator is rendered inoperative when the brakes are firmly applied.
> > > Makes it difficult to bed in brake pads and rotors using traditional
> > > techniques.  Toyota, and possibly other Asian manufacturers, chose not
> > > to implement this feature in their software.   The pennies per car
> saved
> > > by cheaping out on the software?  Maybe there were potential royalties
> > > involved?  Arrogance regarding their media encouraged aura of
> > > infallibility?   The NY Times, some car oriented publications, the
> > > broadcast media, and loads of "consumerist" online and print sites
> > > considered Toyota  the company that could do no wrong, the warm and
> > > fuzzy one, the one whose cars eventually decompose and morph into a
> > > friendly flowery meadow, the pinnacle of automotive environmentalism.
> > > This despite the fact that Toyota's big engines and big vehicles
> > > constitute a HUGE profit center, making up for the massive losses
> > > incurred with the sale of each and every hybrid, while getting the
> > > poorest fuel economy of anything in their class.  Remember, if you tell
> > > people something loud enough and long enough, most will believe what
> > > you're saying.  Think about it;  Many of the people right here believe
> > > XXXX FLAPS "has the right part at the right price", despite the fact
> > > that's patently false.  After all, they can't ALL fill that slot in the
> > > price hierarchy.  As for the other thoughts presented in this thread,
> > > think about it Toyota IS NOT coming right out and dealing with it.
> > > They've futzed around with this for about TWO years, and possibly a lot
> > > longer.  Most techs I know have dismissed the "carpet in the pedals" as
> > > the crock it really is.  As for the sticking throttle, I firmly
> believe,
> > > and never surface in the media, that they have a massive (and VERY
> > > scary) software problem, compounded by Toyota's "taking a chance" by
> > > choosing to forgo the "failsafe" used by European manufacturers.  This
> > > is clearly covered by the now common phrase; "What were they thinking?"
> > > Their spokesperson is now in the unenviable position of the US
> president
> > > talking on the phone to the Russian premier in Dr. Strangelove
> > > ..................  "Dimitry .............?".
> > >
> > > John
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