Audi and Electricals (Kinda Long) C5/A6

Thu Sep 23 08:30:15 PDT 2010

Brian,

Yes, the 'P R N D 3 2' all light up in the dash.  But I also get a 00668 error 
with open or short to ground terminal 30.  The only module that throws this is 
the TCM.  When when I reset the code, the 'P R N D 3 2' displays correctly.  
When I re-start the car the 'P R N D 3 2' are all lit up hence my assumption 
that there is a wiring issue.

Good advice from you, Chris, and Cody on getting the manual which I've ordered 
from Amazon ($61 including shipping).  Other than another visual inspection, I 
won't test anything until I the manual arrives.

Thanks for the wiring diagram link.

--
mohammed
99 a6 2.8q avant
97 a4 1.8tqa

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From: brian hoeft <qweblog at gmail.com>
To: mkb <mkb125 at yahoo.com>
Cc: chris at force5auto.com; quattro at audifans.com
Sent: Thu, September 23, 2010 9:49:32 AM
Subject: Re: Audi and Electricals (Kinda Long) C5/A6

This was recently posted and would be good for you to read;

http://tinyurl.com/35orrak

What Chris and Cody said is on point, more than often a thorough visual 
inspection will reveal the root cause of the problem whether its moisture or 
something cut or loose.. besides if you are not to sure what you are probing you 
could wind up compounding the situation.

I'm also not fully sure on what the symptom you describe is. If its the 'P R N D 
3 2' display on the cluster, well, those clusters arent the best..

Also, if not from my local shops, I have purchased bentley manuals from a guy 
that goes by "bimmerzone" on ebay, with good experience. You need the correct 
manual. 

-brian

On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 1:50 PM, mkb <mkb125 at yahoo.com> wrote:

Chris,
>
>Yep, I've checked this and it appears dry.  I'll be checking again to confirm.
>
>I was able to pull the plastic box and get to the actual TCM.  The only seal I
>found was where the bunched wires go into the box and the TCM.  Now that I
>recall, I did find pieces of broken glass at the bottom which leads me to
>believe that the carpet must have been pulled up at some point and some water
>might have gotten in.
>
>Anyway, good info from both you and Cody.  Thanks!
>
>
>--
>mohammed
>99 a6 2.8q avant
>97 1.8tqa
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Chris Semple <chris at force5auto.com>
>To: mkb <mkb125 at yahoo.com>
>Cc: quattro at audifans.com
>Sent: Tue, September 21, 2010 11:27:41 PM
>Subject: Re: Audi and Electricals (Kinda Long) C5/A6
>
>30 is battery positive in Bentley speak. One note from the KISS school of auto
>tech, before chasing wiring connections with a meter, pull up the RF carpet and
>have a good look at the TCM(trans computer). That series of cars isn't known 
for
>electrical troubles, and it does seem that your issue is "narrowed" down to the
>trans circuit. They are however, known for flooding out the floorboards which
>includes the TCM on the RF and the CCM(comfort/conv module) on the LF. Audi
>half-engineered the plastic box containers for these ecu's, which means that
>they created a box for these things to live in(good) but didn't weatherseal the
>box or provide drains in the box(bad). So even a smallish amount of water
>getting in there will have a hard time getting out. I've used baggies and
>shrinkwrap as a preventative measure on some cars. Inspect the TCM for water
>damage, including the harness. I've sold plenty of TCMs, occasionally with
>harness pigtails. Even bought cars from dealers who were sure they were "junk"
>:)
>
>-Cheers
>-Chris Semple
>Concord NH
>'84 4000q
>  '08 E350 Club
>      '04 F350 DRW
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> So I'm trying to sort out my A6.  Seems to have some electrical issues most 
of
>>which I think I have sorted out.  I think I've got one major issue to resolve
>>but I'm no electrician and I'm having a tough time trying to understand wiring
>>diagrams but I think I understand a little more than I did a few weeks.
>>
>> So here's the situation.  My VAG-COM reports the following:
>> 00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
>> 31-00 - Open or Short to Ground
>>
>> This is reported by the transmission control module (TCM) on the VAG-COM so I
>>assume that the TCM is not getting enough supply voltage.  Why do I say this?
>>Because the transmission range display on the dash lights up.  I can reset the
>>code and the display shows correctly until I restart the car.  I also know (I
>>think) that Terminal 30 is the negative (right?) post from the battery that
>>supplies the various components with power.  I assume that all the other
>>components are OK because only the TCM is throwing the open or short to ground
>>(right?).
>>
>> Now, I could clean the battery ground and the ground strap on the starter, 
but
>>since I only see the TCM throw an error, I assume that the ground connections
>>are good.  So then there must be a wire from the battery that supplies the TCM
>>with voltage and that must have a short somewhere from where it connects from
>>the power source to the target module, the TCM in this case.
>>
>> Right now, I'm looking at a wiring diagram for a auto tran with tip from my
>>Bentley for an A4 (repair manual page number Y429).  I'm assuming it's going 
to
>>be pretty much the same if I look under the same engine code and year.  And I
>>see a red wire from terminal 30 go to A40 which is a plus connection in the
>>instrument panel wiring harness which then goes to T15g/11 which is a 15 point
>>brown wire connector station right, A-pillar.
>>
>> Folks, bear with me.  I've been trying to complete this post for the last two
>>hours referring to the Bentley and trying to understand and write something 
>down
>>without sounding like an idiot.  If you've read this far, I appreciate it.
>>
>> OK, so after some hours of thought, I think my plan of attack is to go to the
>>right side A-pillar with a MM, locate T15g/11 (15 point brown connector) and
>>check the circuit there since it's probably the easiest to get to.  I don't
>>really know how to do this, but I figure I'll sleep on it and it'll come to 
me.
>>
>> Folks again, I apologize for this long, rambling post.  Hopefully, someone 
>will
>>read it and say "No, you're a complete moron, you're totally off track" or,
>>"Yeah, that seems about right" at which point I'll change my strategy or
>>continue on with plan this w/end.
>>
>> --
>> mohammed
>> 99 a6 2.8q avant
>> 97 1.8tqa
>>
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