[urq] Future Audi : is there a TDI planned ?

Cody Forbes cody at 5000tq.com
Wed Apr 13 20:37:36 PDT 2011


Valid point. Having no personal interest  in buy a brand new car ever I wasn't aware of the large entry fee. Buy one used and the economics get better. Also larger platforms that are thirstier tend to have a greater advantage from diesel I believe, ie a ~40mpg FSI Jetta becomes a ~50mpg TDI, but a 20mpg A8 FSI becomes a >40mpg TDI (according to Clarkson).

-Cody (mobile)

On Apr 13, 2011, at 4:16 PM, George Selby <gselby4x4 at earthlink.net> wrote:

> At 03:00 PM 4/13/2011, you wrote:
>> The better mileage works out to the fuel being cheaper per mile in most
>> cases. For example an A8 TDI gets 40mpg where a gas A8 is nearer to 20mpg.
>> The fuel isn't twice as expensive, around here it's not much more than 93
>> octane (maybe 40 cents per gallon more).
> 
> Plus you have to add in the normally significant premium to obtain the diesel engine on top of the base price of the car.  For instance from a base Jetta to a Base TDI Jetta is nearly $8,000 - 50% of the purchase price of the base car.
> 
> According to my calculations based on mixed highway/city mileage and current gas/diesel prices, it costs $152 in gas to drive 1000 miles in a base Jetta, $122 in diesel in a TDI.  So you would have to drive 266,000 miles to make up the diesel premium!  That's assuming you pay cash for the car, not finance it.  That's a long payoff for a high upfront investment in diesel.
> 
> George Selby 
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