Charcoal Canister Delete?

[Cody Forbes]

PZEV, or partial zero emissions vehicle, is a way of meeting the ZEV requirements. Cali requires that 10% of all vehicles sold by any make be Zero Emissions Vehicles. Since there are no zero emissions vehicles they created the PZEV. Each PZEV sold is good for a half of a ZEV credit, or an AT-PZEV (advanced technology – aka hybrid mostly) is 60% of a ZEV credit. 

-Cody

From: Vincent Gelinas 
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 9:41 PM
To: Cody Forbes 
Cc: Mark Rosenkrantz ; armanmik at earthlink.net ; quattro at audifans.com 
Subject: Re: Charcoal Canister Delete?

Doesn't a partial zero emissions vehicle have to be able to be zero emissions part of the time, like a hybrid with electric only capability or something? 

On Jun 11, 2012 9:11 PM, "Cody Forbes" <cody at 5000tq.com> wrote:

  Definitely a negative on PZEV Vee dubs, I've been looking. Most that I'm seeing are SULEV.

  -Cody Forbes

  On Jun 11, 2012, at 3:53 PM, Mark Rosenkrantz <speedracer.mark at gmail.com> wrote:

  > You see them all of the time... I think all VWs are pzev..... At least my wife's 2009 2.5 SE is... And there is no indication of it (such as emblem, etc.).  I suspect the replacement, a 2012 GLi (on order) will also be pzev.
  >
  > Mark Rosenkrantz
  > Typos sent from my iPad
  >
  > On Jun 11, 2012, at 1:33 PM, cody at 5000tq.com wrote:
  >
  >> Here in NC I have only ever seen one PZEV vehicle in the shop. I suspect I've seen many on the road (aren't all Prius's'sss' (Prii?) PZEV?) and didn't know it.
  >>
  >> -Cody
  >>
  >>
  >> Quoting "speedracer.mark at gmail.com" <speedracer.mark at gmail.com>:
  >>
  >>> Mike,
  >>> They are separate, and PZEV is common in all states, including here in NY.
  >>> Generally speaking, you no longer find "49 state cars," for a variety of
  >>> reasons.
  >>> Theoretically, the carbon canister can act also as a spark arrestor, saving
  >>> on fire hazards. If you overfill your fuel system, they can also fill up
  >>> (really hard to do, but theoretically possible),  creating a fire hazard or
  >>> an unmetered source of raw fuel into the engine.
  >>>
  >>> BTW, I bet the firewall on your Cessna 150 has one, albeit unpressurized and
  >>> open to atmosphere.
  >>>
  >>> Mark Rosenkrantz
  >>>
  >>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
  >>>
  >>> -----Original message-----
  >>> From: Mike Arman <Armanmik at earthlink.net>
  >>> To: quattro at audifans.com, cody at 5000tq.com
  >>> Sent: Mon, Jun 11, 2012 10:17:20 EDT
  >>> Subject: Charcoal Canister Delete?
  >>>
  >>>> <cody at 5000tq.com>
  >>> <quattro at audifans.com>
  >>>> Subject: Re: Charcoal Canister Delete?
  >>>
  >>> <snip>
  >>>
  >>> This is why P-ZEV emission standard
  >>>> vehicles (primarily seen in California) have a sealed fuel tank with the
  >>>> pump and the fuel filter locked inside forever - the fuel vapors released
  >>>> during a fuel filter or fuel pump change pollute more than what's coming
  >>> out
  >>>> of the exhaust pipe.
  >>>>
  >>>> -Cody
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> Cody,
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> Does this mean if the pump goes bad or the filter gets clogged, you have to
  >>> buy the *whole* sealed
  >>> gas tank assembly with new pump/filter/etc.? And pay for R&R the tank (which
  >>> is tucked and armored
  >>> way up above the exhaust system and rear suspension) instead of just the
  >>> pump or filter? and
  >>> probably treat the removed parts as toxic waste to be hauled off by guys in
  >>> moon suits (for $$$$$$
  >>> per gas tank) to be disposed of in some "environmentally benign" (more
  >>> $$$$$$$$$$$) approved way?
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> Am I reading this wrong or are those guys in CA nuts?
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> Best Regards,
  >>>
  >>> Mike Arman
  >>> 90V8Q
  >>>
  >>>
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