Charcoal Canister Delete?

[Vincent Gelinas]

Doesn't a partial zero emissions vehicle have to be able to be zero
emissions part of the time, like a hybrid with electric only capability or
something?
On Jun 11, 2012 9:11 PM, "Cody Forbes" <cody at 5000tq.com> wrote:

> Definitely a negative on PZEV Vee dubs, I've been looking. Most that I'm
> seeing are SULEV.
>
> -Cody Forbes
>
> On Jun 11, 2012, at 3:53 PM, Mark Rosenkrantz <speedracer.mark at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > You see them all of the time... I think all VWs are pzev..... At least
> my wife's 2009 2.5 SE is... And there is no indication of it (such as
> emblem, etc.).  I suspect the replacement, a 2012 GLi (on order) will also
> be pzev.
> >
> > Mark Rosenkrantz
> > Typos sent from my iPad
> >
> > On Jun 11, 2012, at 1:33 PM, cody at 5000tq.com wrote:
> >
> >> Here in NC I have only ever seen one PZEV vehicle in the shop. I
> suspect I've seen many on the road (aren't all Prius's'sss' (Prii?) PZEV?)
> and didn't know it.
> >>
> >> -Cody
> >>
> >>
> >> Quoting "speedracer.mark at gmail.com" <speedracer.mark at gmail.com>:
> >>
> >>> Mike,
> >>> They are separate, and PZEV is common in all states, including here in
> NY.
> >>> Generally speaking, you no longer find "49 state cars," for a variety
> of
> >>> reasons.
> >>> Theoretically, the carbon canister can act also as a spark arrestor,
> saving
> >>> on fire hazards. If you overfill your fuel system, they can also fill
> up
> >>> (really hard to do, but theoretically possible),  creating a fire
> hazard or
> >>> an unmetered source of raw fuel into the engine.
> >>>
> >>> BTW, I bet the firewall on your Cessna 150 has one, albeit
> unpressurized and
> >>> open to atmosphere.
> >>>
> >>> Mark Rosenkrantz
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
> >>>
> >>> -----Original message-----
> >>> From: Mike Arman <Armanmik at earthlink.net>
> >>> To: quattro at audifans.com, cody at 5000tq.com
> >>> Sent: Mon, Jun 11, 2012 10:17:20 EDT
> >>> Subject: Charcoal Canister Delete?
> >>>
> >>>> <cody at 5000tq.com>
> >>> <quattro at audifans.com>
> >>>> Subject: Re: Charcoal Canister Delete?
> >>>
> >>> <snip>
> >>>
> >>> This is why P-ZEV emission standard
> >>>> vehicles (primarily seen in California) have a sealed fuel tank with
> the
> >>>> pump and the fuel filter locked inside forever - the fuel vapors
> released
> >>>> during a fuel filter or fuel pump change pollute more than what's
> coming
> >>> out
> >>>> of the exhaust pipe.
> >>>>
> >>>> -Cody
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Cody,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Does this mean if the pump goes bad or the filter gets clogged, you
> have to
> >>> buy the *whole* sealed
> >>> gas tank assembly with new pump/filter/etc.? And pay for R&R the tank
> (which
> >>> is tucked and armored
> >>> way up above the exhaust system and rear suspension) instead of just
> the
> >>> pump or filter? and
> >>> probably treat the removed parts as toxic waste to be hauled off by
> guys in
> >>> moon suits (for $$$$$$
> >>> per gas tank) to be disposed of in some "environmentally benign" (more
> >>> $$$$$$$$$$$) approved way?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Am I reading this wrong or are those guys in CA nuts?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Best Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Mike Arman
> >>> 90V8Q
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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