Charcoal Canister Delete?

[Cody Forbes]

Definitely a negative on PZEV Vee dubs, I've been looking. Most that I'm seeing are SULEV.

-Cody Forbes

On Jun 11, 2012, at 3:53 PM, Mark Rosenkrantz <speedracer.mark at gmail.com> wrote:

> You see them all of the time... I think all VWs are pzev..... At least my wife's 2009 2.5 SE is... And there is no indication of it (such as emblem, etc.).  I suspect the replacement, a 2012 GLi (on order) will also be pzev.
> 
> Mark Rosenkrantz
> Typos sent from my iPad
> 
> On Jun 11, 2012, at 1:33 PM, cody at 5000tq.com wrote:
> 
>> Here in NC I have only ever seen one PZEV vehicle in the shop. I suspect I've seen many on the road (aren't all Prius's'sss' (Prii?) PZEV?) and didn't know it.
>> 
>> -Cody
>> 
>> 
>> Quoting "speedracer.mark at gmail.com" <speedracer.mark at gmail.com>:
>> 
>>> Mike,
>>> They are separate, and PZEV is common in all states, including here in NY.
>>> Generally speaking, you no longer find "49 state cars," for a variety of
>>> reasons.
>>> Theoretically, the carbon canister can act also as a spark arrestor, saving
>>> on fire hazards. If you overfill your fuel system, they can also fill up
>>> (really hard to do, but theoretically possible),  creating a fire hazard or
>>> an unmetered source of raw fuel into the engine.
>>> 
>>> BTW, I bet the firewall on your Cessna 150 has one, albeit unpressurized and
>>> open to atmosphere.
>>> 
>>> Mark Rosenkrantz
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
>>> 
>>> -----Original message-----
>>> From: Mike Arman <Armanmik at earthlink.net>
>>> To: quattro at audifans.com, cody at 5000tq.com
>>> Sent: Mon, Jun 11, 2012 10:17:20 EDT
>>> Subject: Charcoal Canister Delete?
>>> 
>>>> <cody at 5000tq.com>
>>> <quattro at audifans.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: Charcoal Canister Delete?
>>> 
>>> <snip>
>>> 
>>> This is why P-ZEV emission standard
>>>> vehicles (primarily seen in California) have a sealed fuel tank with the
>>>> pump and the fuel filter locked inside forever - the fuel vapors released
>>>> during a fuel filter or fuel pump change pollute more than what's coming
>>> out
>>>> of the exhaust pipe.
>>>> 
>>>> -Cody
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cody,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Does this mean if the pump goes bad or the filter gets clogged, you have to
>>> buy the *whole* sealed
>>> gas tank assembly with new pump/filter/etc.? And pay for R&R the tank (which
>>> is tucked and armored
>>> way up above the exhaust system and rear suspension) instead of just the
>>> pump or filter? and
>>> probably treat the removed parts as toxic waste to be hauled off by guys in
>>> moon suits (for $$$$$$
>>> per gas tank) to be disposed of in some "environmentally benign" (more
>>> $$$$$$$$$$$) approved way?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Am I reading this wrong or are those guys in CA nuts?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> 
>>> Mike Arman
>>> 90V8Q
>>> 
>>> 
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