Charcoal Canister Delete?

[cody at 5000tq.com]

**AVAILABLE** as PZEV optionally, but again is is illegal for them to  
be sold anywhere near here (New York is closest) so in fact there are  
very very few PZEVs here.

-Cody

Quoting Dan DiBiase <d_dibiase at yahoo.com>:

> Many new VW's are actually PZEV - including the 5-cylinder Golf and  
> Jetta models.
>
> http://www.edmunds.com/volkswagen/jetta/2012/options.html?sub=sedan&style=101393770
>
>
> Dan D
> '04 A4 1.8Tq MT-6
> Central NJ USA
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Cody Forbes <cody at 5000tq.com>
> To: Mark Rosenkrantz <speedracer.mark at gmail.com>
> Cc: "armanmik at earthlink.net" <armanmik at earthlink.net>;  
> "quattro at audifans.com" <quattro at audifans.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 8:54 PM
> Subject: Re: Charcoal Canister Delete?
>
> Definitely a negative on PZEV Vee dubs, I've been looking. Most that  
> I'm seeing are SULEV.
>
> -Cody Forbes
>
> On Jun 11, 2012, at 3:53 PM, Mark Rosenkrantz  
> <speedracer.mark at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> You see them all of the time... I think all VWs are pzev..... At  
>> least my wife's 2009 2.5 SE is... And there is no indication of it  
>> (such as emblem, etc.).  I suspect the replacement, a 2012 GLi (on  
>> order) will also be pzev.
>>
>> Mark Rosenkrantz
>> Typos sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Jun 11, 2012, at 1:33 PM, cody at 5000tq.com wrote:
>>
>>> Here in NC I have only ever seen one PZEV vehicle in the shop. I  
>>> suspect I've seen many on the road (aren't all Prius's'sss'  
>>> (Prii?) PZEV?) and didn't know it.
>>>
>>> -Cody
>>>
>>>
>>> Quoting "speedracer.mark at gmail.com" <speedracer.mark at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> Mike,
>>>> They are separate, and PZEV is common in all states, including here in NY.
>>>> Generally speaking, you no longer find "49 state cars," for a variety of
>>>> reasons.
>>>> Theoretically, the carbon canister can act also as a spark  
>>>> arrestor, saving
>>>> on fire hazards. If you overfill your fuel system, they can also fill up
>>>> (really hard to do, but theoretically possible),  creating a fire  
>>>> hazard or
>>>> an unmetered source of raw fuel into the engine.
>>>>
>>>> BTW, I bet the firewall on your Cessna 150 has one, albeit  
>>>> unpressurized and
>>>> open to atmosphere.
>>>>
>>>> Mark Rosenkrantz
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
>>>>
>>>> -----Original message-----
>>>> From: Mike Arman <Armanmik at earthlink.net>
>>>> To: quattro at audifans.com, cody at 5000tq.com
>>>> Sent: Mon, Jun 11, 2012 10:17:20 EDT
>>>> Subject: Charcoal Canister Delete?
>>>>
>>>>> <cody at 5000tq.com>
>>>> <quattro at audifans.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Charcoal Canister Delete?
>>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>> This is why P-ZEV emission standard
>>>>> vehicles (primarily seen in California) have a sealed fuel tank with the
>>>>> pump and the fuel filter locked inside forever - the fuel vapors released
>>>>> during a fuel filter or fuel pump change pollute more than what's coming
>>>> out
>>>>> of the exhaust pipe.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Cody
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cody,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Does this mean if the pump goes bad or the filter gets clogged,  
>>>> you have to
>>>> buy the *whole* sealed
>>>> gas tank assembly with new pump/filter/etc.? And pay for R&R the  
>>>> tank (which
>>>> is tucked and armored
>>>> way up above the exhaust system and rear suspension) instead of just the
>>>> pump or filter? and
>>>> probably treat the removed parts as toxic waste to be hauled off  
>>>> by guys in
>>>> moon suits (for $$$$$$
>>>> per gas tank) to be disposed of in some "environmentally benign" (more
>>>> $$$$$$$$$$$) approved way?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am I reading this wrong or are those guys in CA nuts?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Mike Arman
>>>> 90V8Q
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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