PZEV "controversy"

[Cody Forbes]

What state are you in? (sorry if I missed it)

-Cody Forbes

On Jun 26, 2012, at 2:43 PM, Mark Rosenkrantz <speedracer.mark at gmail.com> wrote:

> I took delivery of a 2012 VW Jetta GLi Autobahn with Navigation, 6 speed
> manual last week, for the wife.  I can confirm it is a PZEV, and the
> sticker under the hood states "conforms to...."
> 
> A little browsing found this:
> http://drive2.subaru.com/Fall08/Fall08_whatmakes.htm
> 
> From fall of 2008, Subaru claims it's PZEV vehicles are available in
> non-PZEV states, as an option.
> In other words, the EPA didn't have a PZEV category, so as long as the
> vehicle fits into another EPA category (they all do), it's LEGAL to sell a
> "PZEV" vehicle in any state a long as they meet all other regulations (they
> all do).  It's just that the manufacturer doesn't get any "credits" for
> selling a PZEV vehicle in a "non-PZEV" state.  It's worth noting the
> careful wording on the underhood stickers as "conforms to" the california
> PZEV requirements.  The window (Monroney) sticker can then be tailored,
> state-to-state.
> 
> But in PZEV states, the manufacturers need to sell a certain percentage of
> PZEV cars in the fleet every year to even be able to do business in the
> state.  I've read, and I don't know if this is true, that running a riding
> lawnmower for a 1 acre lawn mowing session (1-2 gallons?) puts out more
> pollutants than 2000 miles in a PZEV car.  I've also read that in a high
> smog area, tailpipe emmission of a PZEV are often cleaner than the
> surrounding air.  Probably just hype, but still impressive if even
> semi-true.
> 
> Anyone in a non-PZEV state want to head to a VW dealer and look under the
> hood for PZEV stickers on a Jetta or Golf 2.5L as well as a GLi or GTi with
> the 2.0 TSI engine?  If so, I can send you pictures of my car's stickers
> and thier locations.
> 
> Mark Rosenkrantz
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