quattro Digest, Vol 118, Issue 7

[Colin Cohen]

On it and I will get back to you.

Colin
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>   1. RE: eBahn (Chris Semple)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 14:57:59 -0400
> From: "Chris Semple" <chris at force5auto.com>
> To: "'John Lagnese'" <jlagnese at massed.net>, "'Andrew Muff'"
> <andrew at muffster.com>, "'Kneale Brownson'" <kneale at knitknacks.com>
> Cc: quattro at audifans.com
> Subject: RE: eBahn
> Message-ID: <008201ce93a0$0b0a2df0$211e89d0$@force5auto.com>
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>
> That B5 chassis paper Bentley manual specifically excludes the S4 model.
> It's useful if you're doing a "common" service procedure like struts, 
> wheel
> bearings, door lock work, heater core, or something else that's the same 
> as
> an A4. But, if you're looking for engine/trans specs+procedures, or
> codes+diagnostics for the APB engine, you've only got the CD option.
>
> I can't count the number of times we've needed a torque spec, or 
> adjustment
> spec, and had to leaf through a combination of A4/Passat/A6/Allroad books
> around the shop to get the info needed.
>
> ?-Cheers
> -Chris Semple
> Concord NH
> '04 S4 std
>     '03 Rs6
>          '08 E350 Club
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: quattro-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:quattro-bounces at audifans.com] 
> On
> Behalf Of John Lagnese
> Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 2:36 PM
> To: 'Andrew Muff'; 'Kneale Brownson'
> Cc: quattro at audifans.com
> Subject: RE: eBahn
>
> Chris at Force 5 Auto usually has or can get them.
> http://www.force5auto.com/
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: quattro-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:quattro-bounces at audifans.com] 
> On
> Behalf Of Andrew Muff
> Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 1:55 PM
> To: Kneale Brownson
> Cc: quattro at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: eBahn
>
> I 2nd that. I've been looking for a paper B5 S4 manual for ages. It 
> doesn't
> exist. Not even Haynes or Chilton makes em either.
>
> If you can point me to a Bentley factory manual for one, I'd buy it today.
>
>
> On Aug 7, 2013, at 8:16 AM, "Kneale Brownson" <kneale at knitknacks.com> 
> wrote:
>
>> No experience with the Fleabay products.
>>
>> Just want to point out that Bentley (which I read somewhere recently
>> lost
> its contract to publish VAG materials) produces eBahn stuff.
>>
>> And, where are you acquiring printed manuals?  They always seemed
>> superior
> to me.
>>
>> On 8/6/2013 1:38 PM, David Giannandrea wrote:
>>> I got a 'factory manual' for my F150 from Bishko via Rock Auto. It
>>> looked like the real thing, delivered on a CD in PDF format. Of
>>> course, in this format you won't get the factory notices or updates,
>>> but at least I had enough information to address my tasks.
>>>
>>> I am seeing similar PDF manuals for Audis on eBay. under $10.00!
>>> Anybody have experience with them?? At that price I will get one next
>>> week and
> let
>>> you all know what's inside.
>>>
>>> So we have three players involved in delivering information: 1) VAG -
>>> creates the information, 2) Bentley Publishing - publishes
>>> information,
> 3)
>>> eBahn - obsolete software reader.  Can Bentley simply replace eBahn
>>> and
> make
>>> us all happy...or do I have to start buying printed manuals (same
>>> price
> to
>>> me, less profit to Bentley) just to avoid eBahn.
>>>
>>> David G.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 15:03:53 -0600
> From: "tom at tomwintermedia.com" <tom at tomwintermedia.com>
> To: <quattro at audifans.com>
> Subject: re: eBahn
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> This is interesting, but I can't help but think that the forums (this one
> and others) can fill the gap. After all, if I post a question about my B5 
> S4
> on Audizine (and maybe here, tho the 'Zine B5 Forums are pretty active,
> albeit with a lot of punk tuners), I tend to get a lot of good info pretty
> quickly.
>
> I had every intention of getting a factory manual for my C4 S6 Avant, but
> never needed it. You guys and the s-car list were just too damn helpful.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tom 2001.5 S4 Avant
>
>> Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 12:38:51 -0700
>> From: "David Giannandrea" <david.giannandrea at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: <quattro at audifans.com>
>> Subject: re: eBahn
>> Message-ID:
>> <000e01ce92dc$94a5d740$bdf185c0$@giannandrea at sbcglobal.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> I got a 'factory manual' for my F150 from Bishko via Rock Auto. It looked
>> like the real thing, delivered on a CD in PDF format. Of course, in this
>> format you won't get the factory notices or updates, but at least I had
>> enough information to address my tasks.
>>
>> I am seeing similar PDF manuals for Audis on eBay. under $10.00!  Anybody
>> have experience with them?? At that price I will get one next week and 
>> let
>> you all know what's inside.
>>
>> So we have three players involved in delivering information: 1) VAG -
>> creates the information, 2) Bentley Publishing - publishes information, 
>> 3)
>> eBahn - obsolete software reader.  Can Bentley simply replace eBahn and 
>> make
>> us all happy...or do I have to start buying printed manuals (same price 
>> to
>> me, less profit to Bentley) just to avoid eBahn.
>>
>> David G.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 09:16:58 -0600
>> From: Kneale Brownson <kneale at knitknacks.com>
>> To: quattro at audifans.com
>> Subject: Re: eBahn
>> Message-ID: <520264EA.4060805 at knitknacks.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> No experience with the Fleabay products.
>>
>> Just want to point out that Bentley (which I read somewhere recently
>> lost its contract to publish VAG materials) produces eBahn stuff.
>>
>> And, where are you acquiring printed manuals?  They always seemed
>> superior to me.
>>
>> On 8/6/2013 1:38 PM, David Giannandrea wrote:
>>> I got a 'factory manual' for my F150 from Bishko via Rock Auto. It 
>>> looked
>>> like the real thing, delivered on a CD in PDF format. Of course, in this
>>> format you won't get the factory notices or updates, but at least I had
>>> enough information to address my tasks.
>>>
>>> I am seeing similar PDF manuals for Audis on eBay. under $10.00! 
>>> Anybody
>>> have experience with them?? At that price I will get one next week and 
>>> let
>>> you all know what's inside.
>>>
>>> So we have three players involved in delivering information: 1) VAG -
>>> creates the information, 2) Bentley Publishing - publishes information, 
>>> 3)
>>> eBahn - obsolete software reader.  Can Bentley simply replace eBahn and 
>>> make
>>> us all happy...or do I have to start buying printed manuals (same price 
>>> to
>>> me, less profit to Bentley) just to avoid eBahn.
>>>
>>> David G.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 10:55:24 -0700
>> From: "Andrew Muff" <andrew at muffster.com>
>> To: "Kneale Brownson" <kneale at knitknacks.com>
>> Cc: quattro at audifans.com
>> Subject: Re: eBahn
>> Message-ID: <017601ce9397$4af8fee0$e0eafca0$@muffster.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> I 2nd that. I've been looking for a paper B5 S4 manual for ages. It 
>> doesn't
>> exist. Not even Haynes or Chilton makes em either.
>>
>> If you can point me to a Bentley factory manual for one, I'd buy it 
>> today.
>>
>>
>> On Aug 7, 2013, at 8:16 AM, "Kneale Brownson" <kneale at knitknacks.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> No experience with the Fleabay products.
>>>
>>> Just want to point out that Bentley (which I read somewhere recently 
>>> lost
>> its contract to publish VAG materials) produces eBahn stuff.
>>>
>>> And, where are you acquiring printed manuals?  They always seemed 
>>> superior
>> to me.
>>>
>>> On 8/6/2013 1:38 PM, David Giannandrea wrote:
>>>> I got a 'factory manual' for my F150 from Bishko via Rock Auto. It 
>>>> looked
>>>> like the real thing, delivered on a CD in PDF format. Of course, in 
>>>> this
>>>> format you won't get the factory notices or updates, but at least I had
>>>> enough information to address my tasks.
>>>>
>>>> I am seeing similar PDF manuals for Audis on eBay. under $10.00! 
>>>> Anybody
>>>> have experience with them?? At that price I will get one next week and
>> let
>>>> you all know what's inside.
>>>>
>>>> So we have three players involved in delivering information: 1) VAG -
>>>> creates the information, 2) Bentley Publishing - publishes information,
>> 3)
>>>> eBahn - obsolete software reader.  Can Bentley simply replace eBahn and
>> make
>>>> us all happy...or do I have to start buying printed manuals (same price
>> to
>>>> me, less profit to Bentley) just to avoid eBahn.
>>>>
>>>> David G.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 14:36:07 -0400
>> From: "John Lagnese" <jlagnese at massed.net>
>> To: "'Andrew Muff'" <andrew at muffster.com>, "'Kneale Brownson'"
>> <kneale at knitknacks.com>
>> Cc: quattro at audifans.com
>> Subject: RE: eBahn
>> Message-ID: <2EEC40C0BB37449A91EB5E153E18CED6 at foghorn0cf8258>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Chris at Force 5 Auto usually has or can get them.
>> http://www.force5auto.com/
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: quattro-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:quattro-bounces at audifans.com] 
>> On
>> Behalf Of Andrew Muff
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 1:55 PM
>> To: Kneale Brownson
>> Cc: quattro at audifans.com
>> Subject: Re: eBahn
>>
>> I 2nd that. I've been looking for a paper B5 S4 manual for ages. It 
>> doesn't
>> exist. Not even Haynes or Chilton makes em either.
>>
>> If you can point me to a Bentley factory manual for one, I'd buy it 
>> today.
>>
>>
>> On Aug 7, 2013, at 8:16 AM, "Kneale Brownson" <kneale at knitknacks.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> No experience with the Fleabay products.
>>>
>>> Just want to point out that Bentley (which I read somewhere recently 
>>> lost
>> its contract to publish VAG materials) produces eBahn stuff.
>>>
>>> And, where are you acquiring printed manuals?  They always seemed 
>>> superior
>> to me.
>>>
>>> On 8/6/2013 1:38 PM, David Giannandrea wrote:
>>>> I got a 'factory manual' for my F150 from Bishko via Rock Auto. It 
>>>> looked
>>>> like the real thing, delivered on a CD in PDF format. Of course, in 
>>>> this
>>>> format you won't get the factory notices or updates, but at least I had
>>>> enough information to address my tasks.
>>>>
>>>> I am seeing similar PDF manuals for Audis on eBay. under $10.00! 
>>>> Anybody
>>>> have experience with them?? At that price I will get one next week and
>> let
>>>> you all know what's inside.
>>>>
>>>> So we have three players involved in delivering information: 1) VAG -
>>>> creates the information, 2) Bentley Publishing - publishes information,
>> 3)
>>>> eBahn - obsolete software reader.  Can Bentley simply replace eBahn and
>> make
>>>> us all happy...or do I have to start buying printed manuals (same price
>> to
>>>> me, less profit to Bentley) just to avoid eBahn.
>>>>
>>>> David G.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 14:49:18 -0400
>> From: Grant Lenahan <glenahan at vfemail.net>
>> To: "Andrew Muff" <andrew at muffster.com>
>> Cc: quattro at audifans.com
>> Subject: Re: eBahn
>> Message-ID: <4DF38AF7-8D97-4E15-9452-E8D809AA82C7 at vfemail.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> I had a B5 Bentley (service) manual.  It existed. It was the same for A4 
>> and
>> S4
>>
>> Grant
>> On Aug 7, 2013, at 1:55 PM, Andrew Muff wrote:
>>
>>> I 2nd that. I've been looking for a paper B5 S4 manual for ages. It 
>>> doesn't
>>> exist. Not even Haynes or Chilton makes em either.
>>>
>>> If you can point me to a Bentley factory manual for one, I'd buy it 
>>> today.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 7, 2013, at 8:16 AM, "Kneale Brownson" <kneale at knitknacks.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> No experience with the Fleabay products.
>>>>
>>>> Just want to point out that Bentley (which I read somewhere recently 
>>>> lost
>>> its contract to publish VAG materials) produces eBahn stuff.
>>>>
>>>> And, where are you acquiring printed manuals?  They always seemed 
>>>> superior
>>> to me.
>>>>
>>>> On 8/6/2013 1:38 PM, David Giannandrea wrote:
>>>>> I got a 'factory manual' for my F150 from Bishko via Rock Auto. It 
>>>>> looked
>>>>> like the real thing, delivered on a CD in PDF format. Of course, in 
>>>>> this
>>>>> format you won't get the factory notices or updates, but at least I 
>>>>> had
>>>>> enough information to address my tasks.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am seeing similar PDF manuals for Audis on eBay. under $10.00! 
>>>>> Anybody
>>>>> have experience with them?? At that price I will get one next week and
>>> let
>>>>> you all know what's inside.
>>>>>
>>>>> So we have three players involved in delivering information: 1) VAG -
>>>>> creates the information, 2) Bentley Publishing - publishes 
>>>>> information,
>>> 3)
>>>>> eBahn - obsolete software reader.  Can Bentley simply replace eBahn 
>>>>> and
>>> make
>>>>> us all happy...or do I have to start buying printed manuals (same 
>>>>> price
>>> to
>>>>> me, less profit to Bentley) just to avoid eBahn.
>>>>>
>>>>> David G.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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