quattro Digest, Vol 118, Issue 8

Wed Aug 14 17:15:53 PDT 2013

I would love to get hold of a Bentley manual paper or CD for my 1991 90 
sedan with 10 V NG engine
Can anyone help me please
Rick Hayllar.
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>>    1. RE: eBahn (Chris Semple)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 14:57:59 -0400
>> From: "Chris Semple" <chris at force5auto.com>
>> To: "'John Lagnese'" <jlagnese at massed.net>, "'Andrew Muff'"
>> <andrew at muffster.com>, "'Kneale Brownson'" <kneale at knitknacks.com>
>> Cc: quattro at audifans.com
>> Subject: RE: eBahn
>> Message-ID: <008201ce93a0$0b0a2df0$211e89d0$@force5auto.com>
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>> That B5 chassis paper Bentley manual specifically excludes the S4 model.
>> It's useful if you're doing a "common" service procedure like struts,
>> wheel
>> bearings, door lock work, heater core, or something else that's the same
>> as
>> an A4. But, if you're looking for engine/trans specs+procedures, or
>> codes+diagnostics for the APB engine, you've only got the CD option.
>>
>> I can't count the number of times we've needed a torque spec, or
>> adjustment
>> spec, and had to leaf through a combination of A4/Passat/A6/Allroad books
>> around the shop to get the info needed.
>>
>> ?-Cheers
>> -Chris Semple
>> Concord NH
>> '04 S4 std
>>      '03 Rs6
>>           '08 E350 Club
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: quattro-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:quattro-bounces at audifans.com]
>> On
>> Behalf Of John Lagnese
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 2:36 PM
>> To: 'Andrew Muff'; 'Kneale Brownson'
>> Cc: quattro at audifans.com
>> Subject: RE: eBahn
>>
>> Chris at Force 5 Auto usually has or can get them.
>> http://www.force5auto.com/
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: quattro-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:quattro-bounces at audifans.com]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Andrew Muff
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 1:55 PM
>> To: Kneale Brownson
>> Cc: quattro at audifans.com
>> Subject: Re: eBahn
>>
>> I 2nd that. I've been looking for a paper B5 S4 manual for ages. It
>> doesn't
>> exist. Not even Haynes or Chilton makes em either.
>>
>> If you can point me to a Bentley factory manual for one, I'd buy it today.
>>
>>
>> On Aug 7, 2013, at 8:16 AM, "Kneale Brownson" <kneale at knitknacks.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> No experience with the Fleabay products.
>>>
>>> Just want to point out that Bentley (which I read somewhere recently
>>> lost
>> its contract to publish VAG materials) produces eBahn stuff.
>>> And, where are you acquiring printed manuals?  They always seemed
>>> superior
>> to me.
>>> On 8/6/2013 1:38 PM, David Giannandrea wrote:
>>>> I got a 'factory manual' for my F150 from Bishko via Rock Auto. It
>>>> looked like the real thing, delivered on a CD in PDF format. Of
>>>> course, in this format you won't get the factory notices or updates,
>>>> but at least I had enough information to address my tasks.
>>>>
>>>> I am seeing similar PDF manuals for Audis on eBay. under $10.00!
>>>> Anybody have experience with them?? At that price I will get one next
>>>> week and
>> let
>>>> you all know what's inside.
>>>>
>>>> So we have three players involved in delivering information: 1) VAG -
>>>> creates the information, 2) Bentley Publishing - publishes
>>>> information,
>> 3)
>>>> eBahn - obsolete software reader.  Can Bentley simply replace eBahn
>>>> and
>> make
>>>> us all happy...or do I have to start buying printed manuals (same
>>>> price
>> to
>>>> me, less profit to Bentley) just to avoid eBahn.
>>>>
>>>> David G.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 15:03:53 -0600
>> From: "tom at tomwintermedia.com" <tom at tomwintermedia.com>
>> To: <quattro at audifans.com>
>> Subject: re: eBahn
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>> This is interesting, but I can't help but think that the forums (this one
>> and others) can fill the gap. After all, if I post a question about my B5
>> S4
>> on Audizine (and maybe here, tho the 'Zine B5 Forums are pretty active,
>> albeit with a lot of punk tuners), I tend to get a lot of good info pretty
>> quickly.
>>
>> I had every intention of getting a factory manual for my C4 S6 Avant, but
>> never needed it. You guys and the s-car list were just too damn helpful.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Tom 2001.5 S4 Avant
>>
>>> Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 12:38:51 -0700
>>> From: "David Giannandrea" <david.giannandrea at sbcglobal.net>
>>> To: <quattro at audifans.com>
>>> Subject: re: eBahn
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <000e01ce92dc$94a5d740$bdf185c0$@giannandrea at sbcglobal.net>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> I got a 'factory manual' for my F150 from Bishko via Rock Auto. It looked
>>> like the real thing, delivered on a CD in PDF format. Of course, in this
>>> format you won't get the factory notices or updates, but at least I had
>>> enough information to address my tasks.
>>>
>>> I am seeing similar PDF manuals for Audis on eBay. under $10.00!  Anybody
>>> have experience with them?? At that price I will get one next week and
>>> let
>>> you all know what's inside.
>>>
>>> So we have three players involved in delivering information: 1) VAG -
>>> creates the information, 2) Bentley Publishing - publishes information,
>>> 3)
>>> eBahn - obsolete software reader.  Can Bentley simply replace eBahn and
>>> make
>>> us all happy...or do I have to start buying printed manuals (same price
>>> to
>>> me, less profit to Bentley) just to avoid eBahn.
>>>
>>> David G.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 09:16:58 -0600
>>> From: Kneale Brownson <kneale at knitknacks.com>
>>> To: quattro at audifans.com
>>> Subject: Re: eBahn
>>> Message-ID: <520264EA.4060805 at knitknacks.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>>
>>> No experience with the Fleabay products.
>>>
>>> Just want to point out that Bentley (which I read somewhere recently
>>> lost its contract to publish VAG materials) produces eBahn stuff.
>>>
>>> And, where are you acquiring printed manuals?  They always seemed
>>> superior to me.
>>>
>>> On 8/6/2013 1:38 PM, David Giannandrea wrote:
>>>> I got a 'factory manual' for my F150 from Bishko via Rock Auto. It
>>>> looked
>>>> like the real thing, delivered on a CD in PDF format. Of course, in this
>>>> format you won't get the factory notices or updates, but at least I had
>>>> enough information to address my tasks.
>>>>
>>>> I am seeing similar PDF manuals for Audis on eBay. under $10.00!
>>>> Anybody
>>>> have experience with them?? At that price I will get one next week and
>>>> let
>>>> you all know what's inside.
>>>>
>>>> So we have three players involved in delivering information: 1) VAG -
>>>> creates the information, 2) Bentley Publishing - publishes information,
>>>> 3)
>>>> eBahn - obsolete software reader.  Can Bentley simply replace eBahn and
>>>> make
>>>> us all happy...or do I have to start buying printed manuals (same price
>>>> to
>>>> me, less profit to Bentley) just to avoid eBahn.
>>>>
>>>> David G.
>>>>
>>>>
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>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 10:55:24 -0700
>>> From: "Andrew Muff" <andrew at muffster.com>
>>> To: "Kneale Brownson" <kneale at knitknacks.com>
>>> Cc: quattro at audifans.com
>>> Subject: Re: eBahn
>>> Message-ID: <017601ce9397$4af8fee0$e0eafca0$@muffster.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> I 2nd that. I've been looking for a paper B5 S4 manual for ages. It
>>> doesn't
>>> exist. Not even Haynes or Chilton makes em either.
>>>
>>> If you can point me to a Bentley factory manual for one, I'd buy it
>>> today.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 7, 2013, at 8:16 AM, "Kneale Brownson" <kneale at knitknacks.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> No experience with the Fleabay products.
>>>>
>>>> Just want to point out that Bentley (which I read somewhere recently
>>>> lost
>>> its contract to publish VAG materials) produces eBahn stuff.
>>>> And, where are you acquiring printed manuals?  They always seemed
>>>> superior
>>> to me.
>>>> On 8/6/2013 1:38 PM, David Giannandrea wrote:
>>>>> I got a 'factory manual' for my F150 from Bishko via Rock Auto. It
>>>>> looked
>>>>> like the real thing, delivered on a CD in PDF format. Of course, in
>>>>> this
>>>>> format you won't get the factory notices or updates, but at least I had
>>>>> enough information to address my tasks.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am seeing similar PDF manuals for Audis on eBay. under $10.00!
>>>>> Anybody
>>>>> have experience with them?? At that price I will get one next week and
>>> let
>>>>> you all know what's inside.
>>>>>
>>>>> So we have three players involved in delivering information: 1) VAG -
>>>>> creates the information, 2) Bentley Publishing - publishes information,
>>> 3)
>>>>> eBahn - obsolete software reader.  Can Bentley simply replace eBahn and
>>> make
>>>>> us all happy...or do I have to start buying printed manuals (same price
>>> to
>>>>> me, less profit to Bentley) just to avoid eBahn.
>>>>>
>>>>> David G.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 14:36:07 -0400
>>> From: "John Lagnese" <jlagnese at massed.net>
>>> To: "'Andrew Muff'" <andrew at muffster.com>, "'Kneale Brownson'"
>>> <kneale at knitknacks.com>
>>> Cc: quattro at audifans.com
>>> Subject: RE: eBahn
>>> Message-ID: <2EEC40C0BB37449A91EB5E153E18CED6 at foghorn0cf8258>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> Chris at Force 5 Auto usually has or can get them.
>>> http://www.force5auto.com/
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: quattro-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:quattro-bounces at audifans.com]
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Andrew Muff
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 1:55 PM
>>> To: Kneale Brownson
>>> Cc: quattro at audifans.com
>>> Subject: Re: eBahn
>>>
>>> I 2nd that. I've been looking for a paper B5 S4 manual for ages. It
>>> doesn't
>>> exist. Not even Haynes or Chilton makes em either.
>>>
>>> If you can point me to a Bentley factory manual for one, I'd buy it
>>> today.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 7, 2013, at 8:16 AM, "Kneale Brownson" <kneale at knitknacks.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> No experience with the Fleabay products.
>>>>
>>>> Just want to point out that Bentley (which I read somewhere recently
>>>> lost
>>> its contract to publish VAG materials) produces eBahn stuff.
>>>> And, where are you acquiring printed manuals?  They always seemed
>>>> superior
>>> to me.
>>>> On 8/6/2013 1:38 PM, David Giannandrea wrote:
>>>>> I got a 'factory manual' for my F150 from Bishko via Rock Auto. It
>>>>> looked
>>>>> like the real thing, delivered on a CD in PDF format. Of course, in
>>>>> this
>>>>> format you won't get the factory notices or updates, but at least I had
>>>>> enough information to address my tasks.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am seeing similar PDF manuals for Audis on eBay. under $10.00!
>>>>> Anybody
>>>>> have experience with them?? At that price I will get one next week and
>>> let
>>>>> you all know what's inside.
>>>>>
>>>>> So we have three players involved in delivering information: 1) VAG -
>>>>> creates the information, 2) Bentley Publishing - publishes information,
>>> 3)
>>>>> eBahn - obsolete software reader.  Can Bentley simply replace eBahn and
>>> make
>>>>> us all happy...or do I have to start buying printed manuals (same price
>>> to
>>>>> me, less profit to Bentley) just to avoid eBahn.
>>>>>
>>>>> David G.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>> Message: 5
>>> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 14:49:18 -0400
>>> From: Grant Lenahan <glenahan at vfemail.net>
>>> To: "Andrew Muff" <andrew at muffster.com>
>>> Cc: quattro at audifans.com
>>> Subject: Re: eBahn
>>> Message-ID: <4DF38AF7-8D97-4E15-9452-E8D809AA82C7 at vfemail.net>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>
>>> I had a B5 Bentley (service) manual.  It existed. It was the same for A4
>>> and
>>> S4
>>>
>>> Grant
>>> On Aug 7, 2013, at 1:55 PM, Andrew Muff wrote:
>>>
>>>> I 2nd that. I've been looking for a paper B5 S4 manual for ages. It
>>>> doesn't
>>>> exist. Not even Haynes or Chilton makes em either.
>>>>
>>>> If you can point me to a Bentley factory manual for one, I'd buy it
>>>> today.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 7, 2013, at 8:16 AM, "Kneale Brownson" <kneale at knitknacks.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> No experience with the Fleabay products.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just want to point out that Bentley (which I read somewhere recently
>>>>> lost
>>>> its contract to publish VAG materials) produces eBahn stuff.
>>>>> And, where are you acquiring printed manuals?  They always seemed
>>>>> superior
>>>> to me.
>>>>> On 8/6/2013 1:38 PM, David Giannandrea wrote:
>>>>>> I got a 'factory manual' for my F150 from Bishko via Rock Auto. It
>>>>>> looked
>>>>>> like the real thing, delivered on a CD in PDF format. Of course, in
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> format you won't get the factory notices or updates, but at least I
>>>>>> had
>>>>>> enough information to address my tasks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am seeing similar PDF manuals for Audis on eBay. under $10.00!
>>>>>> Anybody
>>>>>> have experience with them?? At that price I will get one next week and
>>>> let
>>>>>> you all know what's inside.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So we have three players involved in delivering information: 1) VAG -
>>>>>> creates the information, 2) Bentley Publishing - publishes
>>>>>> information,
>>>> 3)
>>>>>> eBahn - obsolete software reader.  Can Bentley simply replace eBahn
>>>>>> and
>>>> make
>>>>>> us all happy...or do I have to start buying printed manuals (same
>>>>>> price
>>>> to
>>>>>> me, less profit to Bentley) just to avoid eBahn.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David G.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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