[s-cars] I need a guinea pig

Daniel Hussey dan at s-cars.org
Mon Jul 29 01:47:51 EDT 2002


I was REALLY impressed with the brake lines that came in thier kit.  Anyone
know who makes them???

They are both DOT and TUV approved.

Later,
Dan
'94 S4 (Black/ecru) ... For Sale
'95 S6 Avant (Europa blue/ecru)
'95 Jeep Grand Cherokee Ltd V8 (soon 2 be)
Seattle, WA

----- Original Message -----
From: <JShadzi at aol.com>
To: <adam at s4.org>; <s-car-list at audifans.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [s-cars] I need a guinea pig


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> Adam,
>
> I understand your reply, but your language was very suttle and misleading,
> like saying Cindy Crawford is fat in many ways becuase her 3rd right toe
is
> bigger in diameter than her other toes...
>
> I love the Stoptech Kits, but damned if I have ever felt any difference in
> their selling points in the real world.  The best thing about Stoptech
kits
> is the fitment and support you'll get from them.
>
> They try to sell the kits with hype about piston sizing and a superior
> caliper, I just don't buy it.
>
> Javad
>
> In a message dated 7/28/2002 10:48:42 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
adam at s4.org
> writes:
>
> > Javad,
> >
> > I ask that you please reread what I wrote carefully.  At no point did I
say
> > the Big Red is inferior to the Stoptech.  I used the words "in many
ways,"
> > implying CERTAIN ASPECTS of the caliper show improvement.  But I never
> > implied that these changes make the caliper as a whole superior.  In
fact,
> > I then go on to say,  "There are too many variables to make a definitive
> > comparison, but the Stoptechs consistently have more "bite" and more
"feel"
> > to them.  Could be pad, could be fluid, could be the caliper.  Hard to
> > say."  I thought I made it clear that I was not labeling the Stoptech as
> > superior.  I agree, Javad, making such a claim would be irresponsible
since
> > the only comparisons I have made have been purely qualitative and
subject
> > to the variables I listed above.  Ok, so my use of the word "many" may
not
> > have been the best choice, but I hardly think that constitutes "a
grossly
> > over-exaggerated and irresponsible statement."
> >
> > As for the bridge, lets take a moment and think about what the caliper
is
> > doing.  As the pistons compress against the pads/rotor, it wants to
force
> > the two halves of the caliper away from each other.  This is why they're
> > bolted together.  The point where the two halves are bolted together
create
> > a pivot point, which means any parts of the caliper beyond that point
(away
> > from the wheel hub) would be compressed TOGETHER under the same braking
> > load.  That bridge essentially reduces that compression phenomenon.  All
> > the forces against it are compression, not expansion.  Therefore, the
bolts
> > are simply holding it in place and need only be sized for that purpose.
At
> > no time are the bolts under any stress.  The bridge itself is
considerably
> > thicker than 1/4" too.  More like 5/8".  Again, does this make a
> > quantitative improvement?  I don't know.
> >
> >
> > TTFN,
> > Adam Dieckerhoff
> >
> > Head Tech, Achtuning LLC
> > Redmond, WA.
> > adam at achtuning.com
> > '93 S4
> > '86 5kcstq
> > '81 Yamaha XV920RH Euro
> >
>
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