[s-cars] Too many notes

[Ulrich L. McKenzie]

I think my Fiat 124ST 1.8L twin cam with piatti heads, twin dellorto 40mm
twin choke carbs, stage three cams, lightened and balanced bottom end and
flywheel, & straight cut 5 speed box had the greatest sound of any car I
have ever owned, or even driven.  The only thing that came close was my ex
bosses 1952 Connaught, with a 1.6L Lea Francis twin cam (aluminium body, no
sound proofing, no roof, no roll cage), and skinny little cross ply tyres
that allowed you to wind it up to the red line (6.5K IIRC) without running
out of road...YeeeeHaaaH

Oh and maybe the Aston DB5 my dads friend let me drive, Oh and my buddies AC
Shnitzer 540, and my 1100cc mini with a single 45 Weber, or my Fiat X1/9
with the roof off, or any Porsche.... The heck with it almost any high
performance car that brings back memories, or creates new ones;^]

Sometimes Quattro traction can put a damper on the fun.

Len
'94 UrS4 (sounds way too civilised)
'93 Passat VR6 (with blown down pipe, sounds like Honda)

-----Original Message-----
From: s-car-list-admin at audifans.com
[mailto:s-car-list-admin at audifans.com]On Behalf Of Thompson
Sent: 08 November 2002 10:22
To: s-car-list at audifans.com; Keith Maddock
Subject: Re: [s-cars] Too many notes


Keith, your right. My old 1987 944 8v'er with my "Carrera Cup" style air
filter and even stock exhaust sounded down right brutish. Very tough and
bullish for a 4 banger. The Porsche 944/951/968 engine runs and sounds like
a jewel. Nicest 4cyl sound to my ears. I could only imagine your 968 Club
Sport with the 11.0:1 ratio 3.0 litre and sport pipe would be glorious. That
has vario-cam timing correct? At least I know first hand how your 968CS
steering wheel feels - I've got one mounted to my 1984 ur-quattro! Nice.

Thompson Smith
http://members.rennlist.com/rennwagen

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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 10:28:20 +0100
From: "Keith Maddock" <Keith.Maddock at trw.com>
To: <s-car-list at audifans.com>, <carreragt at rennlist.com>
Subject: Re: [s-cars] Too many notes

I'll beg to differ, you can get good sound out of a few 4-bangers...

My (ex) S2000 sounded pretty sweet at 9000 rpm especially with the airbox c=
over removed.
 (An engine peak that even Pizzo would love)

I test-drove a 968CS M030 with a full "sport auspuf inkl. sport kat" and it=
 was quite quite nice.  (motor had 7k on it and exhaust was so brand-spanki=
n-new your girlfriend could use the muffler to put her make-up on , bloody =
nice car other than the fact it was Black with no AC... Doh!  )

I'm now trying to figure out how to get close to the same music out of my 9=
68.. :)

I'll definately agree that most 4-bangers sound less-than-good, especially =
all those civic's with 5" grapefruit shooter exhausts.

I wonder if it's the relatively high compression ratio of the 968 and S2000=
  (both 11.0 : 1)  that give them a sound advantage??

Cheers,
Keith "radio, who needs a radio?" Maddock
93 S4 mit Stromung
95 968CS hopefully not stock exhaust for too much longer...


****************************************************************
Keith Maddock, TRW Automotive,  Koblenz, Germany
Slip Control Systems, Systems Design, Traction Control
+49 (0)261/ 895 2474     -    -    keith.maddock at trw.com

>>> "Thompson Smith" <carreragt at rennlist.com> 05:45:56 08.11.2002 >>>
All this talk of wailing engines got me thinking back. How can there be a
"best"? There isn't, only personal favorites. My favorite engine notes that
I've heard, driven or witnessed, that make me all nutso are...

(snip)

Bottom line is it must have at least 5 cylinders to sound good.
Thompson
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