[s-cars] Oil Cooler Pics posted...
Paul Friedenberg
paulunm at msn.com
Thu Nov 14 16:34:26 EST 2002
Scott,
The top of the cooler is below the sump.
I don't buy your thermostat hypothisis, if you don't believe the stock oil
guage (I realize that it's indicated 134 may not be an actual 130), then
maybe we should install VDO oil temp guages. In that case, all of our guages
are probably a bit off, so I think I will rip out my IC cluster and install
VDO speed, revs, oil press, oil temp, coolant temp, boost, and hell doesn't
VDO make a clock too?
I must say that I would rather have stainless lines, and this may be an
upgrade in the future. I do pay an incredible amount of attention to my
cars, and maintainance is my hobby. I am one of the most picky people when
it comes to this car, just ask my friend who installed the cooler.
I know you are just trying to help, that's fine. I just disagree with some
of your points. No big deal, no offense taken, and I hope vise-versa.
my .03
Paul
>Paul:
>Comments inserted...
>In a message dated 11/14/02 9:41:36 AM Central Standard Time,
>paulunm at msn.com
>writes:
>
>
> >Oil, like most other fluids seeks its own level. But thanks
>Not sure what that means. In the context of oil coolers, if you have the
>upside down cooler higher than the sump, it will drain back into the sump,
>which means you are "overfilled" until the thermostat opens. If you have
>it
>lower than the sump, you are underfilled until the thermostat opens. Most
>oil coolers are mounted "oversump" which means they "should be" upright,
>and
>in fact, most are, including audis own, motorcycle MC's etc. Those that
>aren't usually have a pressure ck valve in them which prevents oil
>drainback
>on shutdown. The cooler stays full on shutdown, oil levels vary the
>least,
>thermostat open or closed. I see this as a good thing.
>
> >Even if my guage is innacurate, it still read higher with the stock oil
> >cooler.
>
>Ok. Referencing unto itself is an interesting concept. Audis oil temp
>guages are notoriouslly innacurate, it might be nice to have a more
>accurate
>reading. Right now, I'd say that's true of yours, since your readings
>don't
>correspond with the thermostat operation by definition (or it is, and your
>themostat is stuck open - in which case you have a water vapor problem).
>You
>have *done* something which is more than others have done, I won't knock
>that. What I will advocate, is that oil is a critical fluid, and any oil
>cooler addition should be installed "as well as" what audi delivered from
>the
>factory, regardless of the perceived performance.
>
> >American A/C lines see pressures well above 150psi and use rubber hose
>with
> >barbed hose clamps and don't seem to have any problems.
>
>IME, using a rubber line with an oil cooler means you have to pay dutiful
>attention to them in terms of service. The earls fittings aren't expensive
>when adapted to your stock S car lines, and reduce the possibility of
>failure. Either will "work", and it's your motor.
>
>Paul, only trying to be helpful here. MacGuyver of an oil cooler install
>isn't necessary, regardless of the uncalibrated claims. Turn it 180
>degrees,
>rubber isolate it, and add some decent lineage, you've added a good piece
>to
>oil temp peace of mind.
>
>My .02 & HTH
>
>Scott Justusson
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