WG: [s-cars] First gear noises?

[Chad Clark]

Ha ha ha, Bjorn, I'm laughing at myself because I just went out and tried
this and yes, the noise returns after coasting downhill without using the
brakes, restarting of the motor, downshifting to 1st, accelerating again.
But, keep the suggestions coming!!!!! I think you're on to something here.
Other listers have replied privately and I'm trying many crazy things while
driving. You can imagine the looks I'm getting from people:-)

The noise is torque related meaning if I give it hell in 1st gear and torque
the motor(front end raises up) the faster the clicking noise until about
4000 rpm when the noise drops off. Second gear, noise is there but with less
repetitiveness. Third gear, not enough torque on the motor to hear it. So, I
know that both motor mounts are good(removed and checked them) I have not
removed and checked the tranny mounts though. Sounds like it is coming
directly from the left front suspension/wheel/brake area. But, either way,
what would any of this have to do with bringing the noise back with a
restart of the motor once everything is warmed up?!?!? I'm tellin ya.......
Keep em coming guys, I'm going to figure this sumbitch out! Thanks!

Chad 'waiting for something to break so I know what it is' Clark



on 10/9/02 2:34 AM, Bjørn Ødegård at beernuts at online.no wrote:

> Maybe a restart is always done after a complete stop, hence use of the
> brakes..
> Try to shut off the engine on a long slope, while in speed, (Beware of
> removing the key!!!) and restart using the key after some seconds.
> (Don't use the brakes in between.) Try to engine-brake the car to an
> almost halt, and accelerate in first and second.
> Still a problem? See a native american and get him to remove the
> 'ticker'-spell put on the car by the Pinto-driver you passed doing 150
> miles about two months ago..
>
> You didn't tell if the noise is wheel-rpm or engine-rpm dependant? Might
> shed some light..
> May be defective engine/tranny/snub mount causing the engine to twist in
> low gears?
>
> Bjorn  :o)
> '92 S4
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chad Clark" <chadclark at qwest.net>
> To: "Bjørn Ødegård" <beernuts at online.no>; <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 3:15 AM
> Subject: Re: WG: [s-cars] First gear noises?
>
>
>
> Thanks Bjorn,
> I do have new brakes on the car so maybe something is hanging up, the
> investigation continues. What's so weird about this problem is to why
> the
> restart of the engine is the determining factor in making the noise
> apparent
> through the first two gears again?!?!  Weird I tell ya, weird!
>
> Chad
>
> on 10/7/02 2:26 AM, Bjørn Ødegård at beernuts at online.no wrote:
>
>> Possible:
>> Brake disk/pads (sometimes I get this on my ufos after heavy
> breaking..)
>> twig/rock jammed, ABS-sensor, sticky rubber boots, propeller shaft
>> (bearing/joints)...
>> Is the noise wheel-rpm or engine-rpm dependant?
>> Heavy load dependant?
>> Try to listen to the sound with the door open, to exclude the
> propeller
>> shaft or tranny..
>>
>> Bjorn  :o)
>> '92 S4
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Chad Clark" <chadclark at qwest.net>
>> To: "M.Exnar" <mexnar at datacomm.ch>; <s-car-list at audifans.com>
>> Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 5:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: WG: [s-cars] First gear noises?
>>
>>
>> Hey boys and girls,
>>
>> Since we are on the subject of strange noises emanating from places
> we'd
>> rather not talk about, I've got one that I need some help with.
> Subject:
>> '92
>> S4 with a 95.5 S6 tranny(40kmi). New clutch and flywheel at the time
> of
>> tranny install roughly two years ago. Noise just started about a two
>> months
>> ago.
>>
>> If I start the car and just drive away normally, I hear an audible
>> ticking
>> noise through the first 2 gears, only under load, not as I decelerate.
>> Noise
>> is more like pinging than anything else, again, only through second
> gear
>> and
>> then mysteriously goes away after approximately 2 minutes never to be
>> heard
>> again for the remainder of my drive. NOW THE WEIRD PART, I can
> literally
>> stop the car fully warmed up, anywhere, anytime after the noise has
> gone
>> away, restart the car, accelerate in 1st and 2nd and the noise will be
>> there
>> but only for the 2 minutes or less(ping, ping, ping) Noise is not
>> continuos
>> pinging either. Sometimes the pinging is more rapid paced, sometimes
> not
>> but
>> pretty consistent(always there on a restart of the motor). I can
>> accelerate
>> light enough(<1/4 throttle) through 2nd gear and not hear the noise.
>> It's
>> definitely a rotational issue(car has to be moved to get rid of the
>> noise)
>> because if I let the car warm up for say 10 minutes, the noise will be
>> there
>> until after I have moved approximately .5 miles and through the first
>> two
>> gears. WTF!
>>
>> So, let's rule some things out: CV's outer's, both sides have been
>> repacked.
>> When the S6 tranny went in two years ago, both ends of the prop shaft
>> were
>> repacked. I've only ever used 91 Octane here in CO to rule out a true
>> engine
>> ping, or at least I think. New starter in the last 3 months(is
> something
>> hanging up here?) It is definitely not valve lifter clatter, besides,
>> all
>> new lifters one year ago. I can usually find weird noises over time
> but
>> this
>> one has me completely baffled! Thanks for any and all opinions,
>> experiences,
>> thoughts on this one. I'm all ears!
>>
>> Chad Clark '92 Ur-S
>>
>>
>>
>> on 10/3/02 3:56 PM, M.Exnar at mexnar at datacomm.ch wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>> Von: M.Exnar [mailto:mexnar at datacomm.ch]
>>> Gesendet am: Donnerstag, 3. Oktober 2002 23:53
>>> An: Elijahallen92 at aol.com
>>> Betreff: AW: [s-cars] First gear noises?
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> my '95 S6 Avant turbo(6-speed) has some strange noise as well.
>> Especially
>>> audible with the open window passing
>>> by a wall. The noise disappears when decelarating in 1st. Audi dealer
>> said
>>> the noise is due to
>>> a broken tooth of the first gear. Although the noise is irritating I
>> should
>>> not worry about meaning
>>> that the tranny would not break apart in the near future. So I'll
> keep
>>> driving as is and keep the
>>> windows closed and turn the radio on. ;)
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>> Von: s-car-list-admin at audifans.com
>>>> [mailto:s-car-list-admin at audifans.com]Im Auftrag von
>>>> Elijahallen92 at aol.com
>>>> Gesendet am: Donnerstag, 3. Oktober 2002 23:21
>>>> An: s-car-list at audifans.com
>>>> Betreff: [s-cars] First gear noises?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> Ok, my project s-4 is finally fixed but I have a strange noise in
>> first
>>>> gear. It sounds like something ticking as I accelerate but only does
>> it in
>>>> first gear. Is first gear going? Can it be fixed or does this mean
>> new
>>>> trans.? Thanks for any help,
>>>>
>>>> Elijah
>>>> 94 S-4 ( my car with to many mods and lots of lag)
>>>> 94 S-4 Strange noise. (bought wrecked and fixed)
>>>> 95.5 S-6 Avant (wife's car)
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