[s-cars] 93 S4 Test Drive Questions

[Mark Strangways]

Sure, I use that term all the time.

For instance my 2002 Chevy Astro has too much tip in. Even more so in
reverse.
Ofcourse it ends there. A crisp little launch followed by a slow build to
speed.
Slow is relative of course. Much faster than a Hyundai or similar :).

Mark
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ulrich L. McKenzie" <mckenzie3249 at rogers.com>
To: "Igor Kessel" <igor at s-cars.org>; "Chris Milton" <cdmilton at hotmail.com>
Cc: <s-car-list at audifans.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 11:08 AM
Subject: RE: [s-cars] 93 S4 Test Drive Questions


> Hi Gang,
>
> I think the concept you are all describing in your own eloquent ways is
what
> used to be called "tip in".  Any one else out there familiar with the term
> "tip in"?
>
> Tip in is the concept of changing the relationship between the first few
> degrees of throttle peddle travel, and the amount the throttle plate
opens.
> The effect of this is to change the "feel" of the car when accelerating
from
> a standstill, or low engine speeds.
>
> The brain tends to assume a linear relationship between degrees of
throttle
> application, and resulting acceleration, thus if the first few degrees of
> throttle peddle movement unleash 60% of the available power, the
perception
> if that an enormous reserve of power is still untapped.
>
> This is one of the first ergonomic concepts that was exploited by car
> manufacturers to "fool" people into misjudging a cars performance
potential.
> Works great the first time someone (test) drives a particular car, but
with
> familiarity, the brain figures out that no, your family clunker cannot out
> accelerate an S car!
>
> Just one more proof that "Perception IS reality"!
>
> Len
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: s-car-list-admin at audifans.com
> [mailto:s-car-list-admin at audifans.com]On Behalf Of Igor Kessel
> Sent: 19 September 2002 09:48
> To: Chris Milton
> Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] 93 S4 Test Drive Questions
>
>
> Chris Milton wrote:
> >
> > [ Converted text/html to text/plain ]
> >
> > Thanks for all the responses!  I got a ride in a chiped 95 S6 and all I
> can
> > say is WOW!!!  There is definately a difference in power between stock
and
> > chiped.  I know what you mean about the turbo lag.  It doesn't jump off
> the
> > line but after a couple seconds it is gone when the boost comes on! Now
I
> have
> > to find the S6 with the colors/featues I want.
>
> Chris,
> from you earlier posts I gather that the car that you have test driven
> had a 2.5 bar MTM chip. Try the 3 bar MTM chip with the OEM K24 turbo -
> you'd be surprised at how little lag will remain.
> Then you'll go into the RS2 turbo territory and some of the lag will
> back, bringing with it some strong mid- and top end to compensate for
> it.
>
> --
> Igor Kessel
> two turbo quattros
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